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Thread: Has Anyone Here Ever Used a Husher Muzzle? if So What Your Opinion on It?

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    My dog gets aggresive like on walks and always barks at other dogs we pass by even if she can see a dog in the distance.. she is very loud and roudy i avoid walking past dogs as much as possible coz im affraid she will lunge. its getting to scary to walk her!

    we are is training at the momment, im working with her twice a day as well as going to obediance school, and been getting some really good tips and help from a friend i met on here.

    I dont really want to stop walking her due to this behaviour until she learns to pay attension to me and not the other dogs, so i was thinking for others and my peace of mind to get her a muzzle until the issue is resolved.

    I came across the husher, anti bark bite collar, where the dog is still free to pant and drink but the elastic on it is suppose to tier out the dogs jaw to make them not bother barking because of the effort.

    This would be for just tempory use and would only be used on walks, not around the house or ever unsupervised! just a helpfull aid so i can safely continue to walk her untill i can have full controll over her.

    What are your thoughts?

    here is a link to the husher
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    marz84,

    I think you go ahead with it as long as you think it is going to work. Nobody understands your dog better than you do and you seem to be very responsible and dedicated dog owner. I am a believer that every dog owner should enjoy the process of living with your dog. I know how stressful it is to walk dogs who bark. I have two of them. I manage by giving them separate walk at the moment, but I once even considered anti bark collar or prong collar for my mini schnauzer and shih tzu. Trust your judgement! Nothing worse that giving up walk for your dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hachna View Post
    marz84,

    I think you go ahead with it as long as you think it is going to work. Nobody understands your dog better than you do and you seem to be very responsible and dedicated dog owner. I am a believer that every dog owner should enjoy the process of living with your dog. I know how stressful it is to walk dogs who bark. I have two of them. I manage by giving them separate walk at the moment, but I once even considered anti bark collar or prong collar for my mini schnauzer and shih tzu. Trust your judgement! Nothing worse that giving up walk for your dog.
    thank you for your kind opinion i think this option would be appropiate for my dog, i just like to ask questions as this is the first dog i have ever owned, and by myself too. I think im getting there.. she is a kelpie too! not the best choice for an unexperienced owner, but i will never give up on her we have an amazing bond she is 12 months old i have had her since 8 weeks of age. Id do anything for her, Im sure we will both get there eventually

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    Took me a while, the thing is worth $40, via the contact page, and you have to measure dog nose carefully.

    It seems like a good idea. It also looks like the kind of thing that should not be left on all day and all night, it looks like it would rub.

    Essentially you do need to teach your dog that other dogs are ok and she doesn't need to bark at them. There are many ways to do this. My favourite way is blocking her view of whatever it is that she's barking at and giving her treats when she looks at me. There is also approach and retreat. And there is there is the squirty water pistol, though I only use that in the back yard. And I don't actually need to fire it at my dog.

    Work with her on walks. Does it matter which way you go? Turn her around if she gets excited about another dog, and only return when she calms down. Repeat as often as necessary. You might not walk a long way from home, but she will get plenty of exercise. This is the essence of approach and retreat. Give her something else to do, like sit and pay attention to you. "sit", "watch me".

    She's a kelpie. She will learn very quickly if you are consistant and don't give her any reward for behaviour you don't want to encouarge. Ie no yelling at her to stop barking - because that sounds like you're joining in, and no walking towards a dog she's excited about, because that is a reward too. If you can't avoid the dog, make her sit somewhere as far out the way as possible until the dog has passed by. Avoid busy roads so you don't get trapped on a narrow footpath with another dog. There is a risk when you sit out the way, that the *other* dog will lunge or cause a problem, so you need room to move if it gets nasty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    Took me a while, the thing is worth $40, via the contact page, and you have to measure dog nose carefully.

    It seems like a good idea. It also looks like the kind of thing that should not be left on all day and all night, it looks like it would rub.

    Essentially you do need to teach your dog that other dogs are ok and she doesn't need to bark at them. There are many ways to do this. My favourite way is blocking her view of whatever it is that she's barking at and giving her treats when she looks at me. There is also approach and retreat. And there is there is the squirty water pistol, though I only use that in the back yard. And I don't actually need to fire it at my dog.

    Work with her on walks. Does it matter which way you go? Turn her around if she gets excited about another dog, and only return when she calms down. Repeat as often as necessary. You might not walk a long way from home, but she will get plenty of exercise. This is the essence of approach and retreat. Give her something else to do, like sit and pay attention to you. "sit", "watch me".

    She's a kelpie. She will learn very quickly if you are consistant and don't give her any reward for behaviour you don't want to encouarge. Ie no yelling at her to stop barking - because that sounds like you're joining in, and no walking towards a dog she's excited about, because that is a reward too. If you can't avoid the dog, make her sit somewhere as far out the way as possible until the dog has passed by. Avoid busy roads so you don't get trapped on a narrow footpath with another dog. There is a risk when you sit out the way, that the *other* dog will lunge or cause a problem, so you need room to move if it gets nasty.
    Thank you for all those tips its great hearing different teqniques so i can find out what works with her best. i have tryed having a friend block her view when i distract her with treats and try to get her focuss on me, but she wont take the treats when she is distraced by other dogs, she just keeps barking, i put her in the sit stay position to try to calm her down.. still dont work.. but i have added into her training at home the "look at me command" then reward her when she does look, so hopefully with alot of practice that will work. yeah i dont put myself in the position where im on narow paths.. way to risky. i even look down the street to see what side other dogs are walking on if any to make sure im on the other side. i try to keep her walking when she stops to bark at dogs on the other side of the road but she is very strong, she is a puller too. i just recently purchased a martingale collar, kinda like a limitid slip collar, it cant continue to tighten like a choke chain, its mostly nylon with a little bit of chain. hopefully will help with corrections. As you can see im willing to try any product that along with training to hopefully help, giving up on her is not an option, she really is my best friend

    thank you for taking the time to reply to my question

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    Kelpie might not be treat orientated at all. Some of the working breeds / farm dogs are not.

    If she doesn't give you any attention when you block her view - you're still too close. Try again from further away.

    And try rewarding with a game like tug or ball (on a string) or pats or something other than treats. Try also putting her in the down position. It's like faking submission or non threatening behaviour. It will make her seem less aggressive to other dogs, so they may react less, and hopefully that will reduce the cycle of build up.

    Other side of the road is still a bit too close. I read somewhere that some dogs react by barking and carrying on at exactly the average road width distance eg about 15m. Dunno if I can find it. Maybe it was in a book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    Kelpie might not be treat orientated at all. Some of the working breeds / farm dogs are not.

    If she doesn't give you any attention when you block her view - you're still too close. Try again from further away.

    And try rewarding with a game like tug or ball (on a string) or pats or something other than treats. Try also putting her in the down position. It's like faking submission or non threatening behaviour. It will make her seem less aggressive to other dogs, so they may react less, and hopefully that will reduce the cycle of build up.

    Other side of the road is still a bit too close. I read somewhere that some dogs react by barking and carrying on at exactly the average road width distance eg about 15m. Dunno if I can find it. Maybe it was in a book.
    When i first started obediance training they told me to bring a tug toy or ball on a rope to class a to distract my dog and for the play sessions. i had no luck.. the only thing that worked was her obssesion witch is a normal tennis ball which is a pain trying to bounce it when she is on lead for her to catch it, but on that note i just recently decided to put all he balls that were laying around in the back yard away, coz she would always want to play fetch, constantly throwing the ball at your feet when you were trying to do other things. for the last 2 days i have done this and treat the ball as a reward now after our traing sessions at home then put them away when we have finished. Now that the balls arnt around im getting her interested in tugg toys and she is responded well, where is before if you tryed to play with her with a different toy she would continue to keep throwing the ball at you. i should of hide her balls from her earlyier.. but i was worried she would get stressed out and get into lots of mischif looking for them. but she is fine. so hopefully i will be able to start getting her attension on walks and at obideance class with tug/rope toys.

    I will defently try the lay down position instead of sit and see how that goes thank you, my trainer's havent been that helpfull with giving me different options and advice.. their advice is yank the collar and firmly say "leave it" does not work at all for me.. works with the trainer as she is frightened of his voice. and i guess because she dosent know him.

    Wow the other side of the road isnt further enough.. that makes it a bit hard hey as i have to walk along the street to get to the park ect.

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    have you tried putting a tennis ball in a sock? and using that as a fetch/tug

    or balls on string like everlast or orbee are good.

    PS you don't really have to get to the park if you're practicing good behaviour, you turn around and go the other way...

    Otherwise - you're rewarding bad behaviour by continuing to the park.

    Maybe do one or two sessions a week where the goal is getting good behaviour and not "going to the park".

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