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    Default Chris De Aboitiz Seminar in Newcastle

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    sounds like some good steps forward mate

    slowly making progress is better than no progress at all................best of luck

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    Hmmm, might have to check my diary and see what I'm doing that weekend!

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    That sounds really good Clea - I hope he helps!

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    I would love to know how this goes.

    It seems like Chris has zero qualifications in dog behaviour. That doesn't mean he can't get results but I'd love to see it backed up by some scientific rigor - ie record keeping and follow up and published results. Ie we do this method with a dog displaying this behaviour and this is the result. For a couple of thousand dogs or more.

    One of the testimonials mentions "putting their dog in submission a couple of times". Eek. Then again my dog isn't perfect, maybe I should try it. Then again, I think I have tried it and results were about the opposite of what I wanted. Frosty offers submission when she thinks it necessary, I never have to force it. Lucky for me I suppose, or she'd still be at the beach.

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    My theory is try it all. Go to as many seminars etc as possible.

    I'm a member of APDT and they put lots of seminars on. I also go to any of the ones that the club recommends and when possible the NDTF seminars.

    They all prefer different types of trainers but I don't discount any particular method.

    Often it is a matter of elimination to find the right method for a dog. The right trainer for the right dog/owner.

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    sounds like great news, hoping it all goes so well for your little pack.

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    Yes I agree that different dogs respond to different techniques.

    Would like to know why though.

    Currently reading "A modern dog's life" by Paul McGreevy, who works at Sydney Uni and has three cattledog x (or not x, hard to tell). So far, pretty easy to read, he has used stories from his own experience with dogs, his own research, other's research and compared his dogs, domestic dogs gone feral, and wolfs (grey wolf) behaviour research.

    He is definitely a fan of a hierachical structure in terms of the lead dog, and dog packs. The lead dog has access to more resources more of the time and the best leader never has to "raise a lip in anger", the other dogs just defer, get out the way, and let them have what they want. He does distinguish between an alpha dog and a pack leader. Will have to read more about that one.

    I won the book in a dog's life magazine competition. Woo hoo.

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    Well for me I think the different methods work for several reasons. The user or trainer has to believe in the method. Which means they have often seen the method work quickly on either their own dog or another dog they have close contact with. If you believe in something and do it with conviction I think this makes (in most cases) a huge different to a dog.

    Dogs and the pack order. Having always lived in a multi dog house and breeding litters you can see personalities evolve. I believe in the domestic dog pack and our place within that. Not necessarily us being alpha dog but us being the human leader of the dog pack.

    I witness them using their bodies everyday to denote their place within the pack, it never leads to fights, I've only had one fight in years and years, over quickly and the leader retained their place. But I believe the body gesturing thru play keeps the harmony.

    Amongst my own pack of dogs their are several different personalities.

    I would not dream of training these dogs the same way. I would either get walked over the top of by one of them or I would crush the spirit of the other. Having said that a lot of the basics would stay the same just fine tuned to meet the individuals personality.

    Anyway that's just my opinion.

    In my mind a dogs a dog but within the species comes the different personalities.

    And I'm a huge believe in finding the right motivator for your dog and developing the drive for that motivator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    Our private session is booked and the seminar is booked.......looking forward to this
    We expect nothing less than a full essay of your private session complete with step by step photos when you report back !!
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