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Thread: Problem with Drop or Down in Heeling

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    Default Problem with Drop or Down in Heeling

    I am just starting CCD trialling and Cindy has a v-e-r-y s-l-o-w drop.
    She always has. It is more of a hydraulic lowering than a drop.
    I have just starting luring her down and it is better but only marginally.
    Any clues would be great.

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    Firstly what breed of dog is she.

    Large dogs take time to drop.

    Remember to praise and reward for only quick drops. If you are rewarding slow drops then she will know that is good enough.

    So if you get a quick drop praise her like it's christmas, even if you get offered a mediocre drop ignore it. Look for improvements and reward improvements only.

    Make sure the surface you are asking her to drop on is to her liking also, especially for training. Don't train on wet ground if she has a fine coat like for instance a whippet or SBT or boxer.

    Sometimes I like to train drops on a slippery surface so that a little tug down with the leash can give a quick collapse into a drop and then reward like it's Christmas.

    Use a conditioned reinforcer to mark the exact action you are after.

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    Also make sure you dog is physically fit. That there is no reason she is offering poor drops, like arthritis or HD.

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    Thanks for that info. she is fit so there is no reason for her not to drop. She is a small dog poodle x
    I will try rewarding only the good drops. Should I keep luring?

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    If she knows what is required of her I wouldn't be. I'd be now offering a reward, then only reward for the best.

    Each time she drops the bar just got raised before she gets a reward.

    To me it sounds like the transition from lure, to reward to intermittent reward or the reward for only improvements was messed up a little.

    Also if she's actually a small dog don't ask her to drop close to large dog for a while.

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    I was training Pipi to drop. She is a Toy Poodle x Mini Foxy and she too had a slow drop.

    Towards mastering the trick she got faster but only now and then is she slow..

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    I agree with paying attention to the surfaces. Yuna will not drop for anything if the grass is wet.

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    To me it sounds like the transition from lure, to reward to intermittent reward or the reward for only improvements was messed up a little.

    Yep the handler is on a steep learning curve

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    No worries, you'll get there. Dogs are resilient and all will come good.

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    Drops showed improvement today so THANKS HEAPS everyone. I will keep working on it and only reward what I want.
    Is there anyway of making sure she will drop on all surfaces-can't be certain what will happen in a trial

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