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    There is no problem. My best girl Tess and I get along fine. However she sometimes shows behaviour that puzzles me.

    Every now and then, for a reason I can't fathom (for "simple beasts" they can be complex) she will bring me here dinner bowl...why would this be?...... no....she brings me here dinner bowl but very nicely and gently refuses to give it to me. She wags her tail and whole body, curls up and looks me straight in the eye, quite friendly, almost twinkly, makes little sort of moaning noises (not whining, just an even sound) and hangs on to the bowl, even though I have the food out already.

    She is a bolshie, boisterous girl, but very well behaved and I can only say actually polite, in that she seems to consider us and do things just to be nice. If we throw somethong (typo intended...a thong is all she will chase) for her, sometimes she will want to tug-o-war. That I can understand. But why the dinner bowl?

    In the end usually I just either stop playing or tell that she cannot eat dinner without her [I]plate[I] and she hands it over.

    Any advice appreciated. As I say I am not bothered by it. It's rather cute. But I am interested, and if there is a meaning to it, I want to be able to understand and respond properly according to both of us.
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    Sorry I found your post a little confusing.

    However I will say this one of my dogs hides her food bowl. She likes to walk around with it. And actually destroyed the last one.

    We now remove the bowl because when we moved onto small acreage it became ridiculous looking for it just so we could feed her.

    She saw it as a combination between a toy and a bone.

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    Haha sounds very cute!

    Perhaps she is hungry? Or she may think that if she brings her bowl to you which she knows to associate with meal times, she thinks that she will be rewarded with food for bringing it to you. She sounds very smart if this is the case.

    But as you mentioned she doesn't hand you the dish, well my Pipi does the same thing with a tennis ball. She brings the ball to me but won't drop it unless directed, but sometimes she be's cheeky and makes me chase her for it. Maybe your dog wants more attention, even though it sounds like she gets plenty. My opinion is that she would like to turn meal times into a game.

    Haha my opinions may sound a bit strange, awkward or any other word, but she just sounds like one of those dogs that is a bit cheeky and loves to play games and is widening her knowledge etc. Hehe..

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    Sorry if I confused people. I tend to be a bit smarty when I type.

    MAC, I did wonder if it was a toy thing, but this is only at meal times. She knows what her toy is (an old woollen sock) and "not a toy!" will cause her to let go of anything else.

    I sympathise if your dog goes out and hides the plate ....actually that may be a clue. If Tess sees the plate as part of her food stash, maybe sometimes she has trouble trusting me. Strange if so, because if I ever take anything off her (old bone, food scrap I am not happy with) I try to reward her with something else.

    She brings me the plate when she is hungry, sure enough, but what puzzles me is I already have the food out on the bench to feed her and she still holds onto the plate. There is this very strong if cute message there somewhere. It's almost "I really want to give you the plate (wag wag) but for some reason, today I can't! "

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    It's play time and her choice of game is keepings off chasey

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    Oh okay.. Haha. I get you now. I will do a little bit of research and get back to you..
    Best of luck until then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occy View Post
    It's play time and her choice of game is keepings off chasey

    That's a good idea, but keepings off chasey consists of a 25Kg staffie cross KEEPINGS OFF! There are no mixed messages when tug-o-war starts.

    This is almost a "not letting go I have a trophy". I reckon she is looking for something. But the obvious reward for bringing the plate is food: this delays the food!...and yet it seems quite important to Tess.

    It's really hard to describe. Tug-o-war is full on. Although as with most dogs they want to play, so they offer the toy so they can tear it off you. But the plate is offered, but there is no tugging, just a refusal to let go, with this body wagging and curling, and talking. Not the tug-o-war growl and sheer strength.

    There is some message here. I had another dog years ago who would do the same thing with the body wagging and the facial/eye interaction. There are many differences, but I can also see many common points. Very bright. Very considerate. Very involved.

    Working on my PC and get exasperated (as you do ) ....heave a sigh, both dogs have reacted by trying to "fix" or comfort.

    So there is some reaction here that I need to understand.

    I know this may be over-thinking, but it's a very rare behaviour. I have lived with 6 dogs, and only this one and the other one have shown it.

    What does it mean if a dog curls up and wags their whole body at you? Also they look you in the eye and twinkle at you. And make almost pleading noises, while gently refusing to give you the thing that will give them what they want. It is quite disconcerting.

    I get some of it if we are going walking and Tess gets shoes etc. She does a "circuit" before giving me the stuff, but then it's all OK...well maybe a bit of a fight. So there is show-pony thing there. But there she responds to praise. With the plate it's different.

    So. Clues. I really am trying to get it right from Tess's POV, because I just cannot read this one.

    As you can probably tell, this dog has me wrapped around any claw you can name. ....but she does not abuse it.

    Nick

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    Is it like an excited puppy wiggle?

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    My setter does it after she's eaten her food. Foot on bowl and scrap along paving making lots of noise, bum in air in play mode, bowl flips up and in mouth, she then runs around happy with her game, see's if anyone is going to chase her, which I won't, I find it annoying, but just watch to see where she puts it.

    As I said since moving and because I have quite a few dogs all bowls are picked up and removed after each meal. Solved the problem.

    This is at our old place. She is given no opportunity to do it any more.
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    Nick, your dog likes the game, likes to win and you always feed her in the end. Yep, got you wrapped around her crafty paw.

    From what I can read of the situation it gets something out of every step of this game. It's a different game to the tug-of-war but still a game that it controls and enjoys the outcome of along the way.

    You could analysis it until the cows came home but will never really know until we can all talk dog.

    If you're not bothered by it then fine; me, it would annoy the crap out of and I'd walk away, no give up the bowl - no food - kitchen closed.
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