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    Hahahaha. So cute.
    I'll just ad to DAs excellent advice, make sure you always finish training on a good note. Even if its just asking him to sit.
    Oh, and lots of praise, make it fun and enjoyable for him
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    Agree with Myf 100%. excellent comment. The reason being that if you finish on a 'bad' note, the dog will associate training with his inability to please you.
    I always finish afterwards with a game, BTW. Even just chase, run, roll, play-fight whatever. Just so the dog associates training with this magnificent play session at the end with his favourite person - ME!!!

    But then of course I'm kinda queer and play like a dog, not a human.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    Lex...how would you say your rapport is with your dog? Do you have a good understanding of each other? Do you trust him (as much as you should trust a dog of course)?
    not 100% what you mean, but he knows im boss and he will listen to me if he's being naughty, he knows who i am, and what my specific moods indicate towards him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    a good rapport means.....you understand him and his body language and the other way around. A good rapport is also him trusting you...will focus on you for guidance etc.

    He listens to you when he is being naughty...what about when he is not naughty?

    Have you done any focus training....as in watch/look and he must look in your eyes? Training becomes a lot easier when you have a dog that is focused on you...it is close to impossible to train a dog if it isn't focused on you...if you get my drift.

    Have you done any "target" training? Ok...will explain......he is sitting in front of you. The target needs to be fairly close to him to begin with...use your hand. Open you hand up infront of him and say...touch/kiss. When he puts his nose on your open palm....say YES and reward. Keep doing this until he get the picture...that touch/kiss means "put nose on your open palm". You can then start moving your hand further to the side....say kiss and he will move to your hand....touch nose on open palm and come back infront of you and sit....you say YES and reward!

    This teaches him to focus on you and makes for a great party trick, when you become more advanced. You can then have a broom stick in your hand with a cardboard disc at the end. He will sit infront of you....you put broom stick out to the side....say kiss and he will move and put his nose on the disc and come back and sit infront of you....YES and reward
    Very intresting, thanks for taking the time to write all that..
    As this is my 1st dog, i must say im loving all ths info. And looking foward to teaching him all these cool things, i know he has the potential.

    Thanks again.

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    Back on the restricted breed thing.

    For NSW legislation (SA legislation is much the same, and I can't figure out the QLD rules) you will need to check in your area...

    COMPANION ANIMALS ACT 1998 - SECT 55 Interpretation

    Amstaff and Amstaff x are not on the list.

    But it seems any council ranger can declare any dog they like "restricted". I think this may apply only to "dangerous dogs", ie the dog has to do something dangerous like attack another dog in a public place to get declared "dangerous". If it attacks a human in a public place - it's more likely to be put to sleep - if it is caught.

    But given that Black Lex's dog is arguably a complete bitza - bitza dogs are not restricted.
    http://www.dogforum.com.au/general-d...-dog-help.html

    If you disagree - please point me at the legislation or council rules that say otherwise.

    I haven't found anywhere *legal* that says that Amstaff x is the same thing as a Pitbull either. It does seem to be true that council rangers will declare any dog "restricted / dangerous" if an owner says is it an Amstaff x or a pitbull x. So you call it a mastiff x or something else that looks similar that isn't on the restricted list. And you don't play "guess the breed" with the council.

    I personally think BSL is nuts - you have to go with behaviour of the individual dog and trainer. It might be true that some breeds are more likely to attack other dogs if they haven't been trained any different. But with good training they can be taught to behave. This may not work with every individual dog but it's no reason to write off every single dog that looks like an Amstaff (or a Pitbull) and doesn't have ANKC papers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    Back on the restricted breed thing.

    For NSW legislation (SA legislation is much the same, and I can't figure out the QLD rules) you will need to check in your area...

    COMPANION ANIMALS ACT 1998 - SECT 55 Interpretation

    Amstaff and Amstaff x are not on the list.

    But it seems any council ranger can declare any dog they like "restricted". I think this may apply only to "dangerous dogs", ie the dog has to do something dangerous like attack another dog in a public place to get declared "dangerous". If it attacks a human in a public place - it's more likely to be put to sleep - if it is caught.

    But given that Black Lex's dog is arguably a complete bitza - bitza dogs are not restricted.
    http://www.dogforum.com.au/general-d...-dog-help.html

    If you disagree - please point me at the legislation or council rules that say otherwise.

    I haven't found anywhere *legal* that says that Amstaff x is the same thing as a Pitbull either. It does seem to be true that council rangers will declare any dog "restricted / dangerous" if an owner says is it an Amstaff x or a pitbull x. So you call it a mastiff x or something else that looks similar that isn't on the restricted list. And you don't play "guess the breed" with the council.

    I personally think BSL is nuts - you have to go with behaviour of the individual dog and trainer. It might be true that some breeds are more likely to attack other dogs if they haven't been trained any different. But with good training they can be taught to behave. This may not work with every individual dog but it's no reason to write off every single dog that looks like an Amstaff (or a Pitbull) and doesn't have ANKC papers.
    Well this is a breath of fresh air, thanks heaps for your digging!!
    So basically your saying..
    BEcause Lex is a bitsa, he cant be decalred dangerous or even ristricted unless report on. Even if the ranger may "think" he's a pitbull x

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    I put some more here including links to confuse you.

    http://www.dogforum.com.au/general-d...html#post81969

    Need to do some searches on "legal definition of a pitbull".

    I'm not sure there is one (yet).

    I wish I could find that thing that came out with sixteen pictures of dogs that looked like "pitbulls" and were not (based on their dna tests or known parentage).

    There are quite a few kennel club registered breeds that look the same but have different ancestries. Eg Manchester (aka Engish minature) terrier - which looks like a tiny doberman, and Minature pinchers which look like a tiny doberman. And they have different temperments and were bred for different tasks.

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    Hyacinth: the site you want is Pet Pitbull - Find the Pit Bull or another one at findpitbull_v4. It's a worry seeing how many dogs people think are pitbulls.

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    Phluff

    Find the Pit Bull is an interesting page of pictures of pure bred dogs as best I can tell. The thing I was thinking of was a pdf with pictures of dogs that looked like pitbulls but had DNA tests identifying them as other things.

    My favourite was a dog with "significant chiuaua". I guess you breed a bigger chi and you've got potential for one fearless dog.

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    Find The Pit Bull
    1. Boxer
    2. DDB
    3. PB????
    4. Swiss Mountain Dog?
    5. Vizla(sp?)
    6.
    7. Dogo Argentino
    8. Lab
    9. Bull Mastiff?
    10.
    11. Neopolitan Mastiff??
    12. Rotti
    13. Presa Cresia (or something like that?)
    14. PB???
    15. Cane Corso??
    16. PB????
    17.
    18.
    19.
    20. Bull Terrier
    21.
    22.
    23.
    24. Staffy???
    25.

    http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html
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