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    What ever you call it - it's not something for first time owners!

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    Because it requires a dog of a certain temperament and most first time owners don't know their arse from their elbow in regards to dog behaviour. I've never had a dog with the right temperament for schh but being that it's intrinsic to my breed overseas, I have done plenty of research about it.

    You make it sound like it's schh or nothing. Obedience training without manwork is plenty good enough for 99% of the population. I wouldn't do it even if I had a dog of the right temp because in many places - right or wrong - you have to declare the dog as dangerous

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    A good club will. People doing their own thing won't and since it's banned it brings up underground clubs

    as to what it is - it depends on the grade of schh but a fully trained dog has to have passed manwork. If all someone wants is obedience they should go to an obed club. If they want tracking and agility then there are clubs for that too. Schh should be left to people training a dog for a job or those who have done the other stuff and want a new challenge. Only now - in my 30s - do I think I have enough experience to do schh but I probably wouldn't as I don't need it. Perhaps overseas I would do it but not here where it's illegal

    I am not against schh, I am against inexperienced owners doing it. You don't have to agree with me but I am entitled to that opinion.

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    Yeah, I kind of agree with Occy.

    After more than 30 years as a professional dog trainer my old boss has taken up the sport in the last few years.

    I wouldn't like to think anyone less experience is giving it a go, I truly wouldn't.

    I can't think of any reason a person would want to other than they have experienced everything else in dog training several times over before they ventured into it like that man has. He and the dog are having a great time, but he's done everything else there is to do.

    It's just my opinion, not his, and not others I know.

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    You are talking chalk and cheese - delta and schh are two ends of the stick - what about everything in the middle? What about a balanced training regime?

    I could train my dog at home - I have plenty of experience - but I dont see the point in it when I could be at a dog club and getting the socialisation in. I think people who train their dogs are home are asking for trouble if their dog ever gets out.

    What you own or dont own is up to you - but you are not a novice dog owner

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    Our schutzhund club is a very reputable club that is in no way illegal or underground!! All the trainers have years and years experience and titles in a range of trials. They travel to Germany to compete with the best dogs. As “novice” dog owner I understand that it will take me years to even think about any bite protection training. I have to start somewhere and all other obedience clubs in our area use out dated training methods such as chocker chain and no food rewards. A Rottie is a working breed and my girls drive is very strong. She has passed the basic test to join the club but has many many more to continue.

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    Sad the clubs around the area are outdated. best of luck to you both, i hope it works out.

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    Best of luck.

    Keep us posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lscot136 View Post
    Our schutzhund club is a very reputable club that is in no way illegal or underground!! All the trainers have years and years experience and titles in a range of trials. They travel to Germany to compete with the best dogs. As “novice” dog owner I understand that it will take me years to even think about any bite protection training. I have to start somewhere and all other obedience clubs in our area use out dated training methods such as chocker chain and no food rewards. A Rottie is a working breed and my girls drive is very strong. She has passed the basic test to join the club but has many many more to continue.
    If you are after a general obedience/agility club - check out the VIP dog club up at yatala. They're next to the food factory there. They use positive methods and allow you to use the training aids that you want/need for your dog. They also give you freedom during the classes, providing you don't disrupt any of the classes that are running. Oh, and the Doggy Commando is a tonne of fun!

    I'd love it if you could possibly pm me the details of the schutzhund club you go to, as I'd LOVE to get down there and have a look! Thank you muchly in advance!

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    Schutzhund is that thing that you see with the dogs biting the protected arm of a person, right? Can someone please explain what its for?

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