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    Default Delta Society??

    What so bad about them? I've no idea, but have seen multiple posts saying how bad they are. Details, please?

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    Purely Positive training ONLY! No matter what you are not allowed to correct your dog even just by saying 'No' when it's doing something bad.

    Based on that alone it is not good for Batty. Left like that he would be a nightmare to live with!

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    Oh. I totally understand you Ange (can I call you that?), Dora would be terrible if I never corrected her. Especially with toilet training, as we don't have a doggy door *sighs* I don't think my puppy class trainer was Delta (even though the link is on her website, leading me to ask this question) because we were told about a naughty lead, and instead of saying 'no' for everything, she advised us to use corrections like 'gentle' when biting, etc. PS. to teach the 'gentle' correction, we were to put some peanut butter on our hands and when the dog was licking it off we were to repeat 'gentle'. Hope that made sense

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    I don't believe in reward good behaviour...ignore bad behaviour to be honest. I believe "bad" behaviour should be addressed in an appropriate manner without screamng and yelling...without force and hitting, but it MUST be addressed

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    The thing I find hard about Delta is that there is limited or no flexibility in their methods or style. So if it isn't working for your dog - there's only one option - ie leave. I didn't like being told I couldn't use the tin can towers, or the squirty bottle for corrections. I think the dog being run over or bit by a snake is the ultimate correction - for lack of some gentle ones at the right time. And most of the trainers / courses seem expensive to me, with results less than reliable.

    Consider
    delta course 8 weeks $180 approximately - all positive fun stuff - you can finish the course with a dog that won't do anything it is told and you don't get any money back.

    council course 8 weeks $80 approximately - mixture of approaches - too many dogs and distractions and not enough instructors or help for individual dog/handler teams. And you can finish the course with a dog that won't do anything it is told, and still get your certificate for discount on dog rego.

    obedience dog club $50 for Feb through November - once or twice a week - up to you and the weather, graduate on merit - once a month (depending on weather and how well your dog is going). Many approaches offered - although ultimately they're trying to get you to a place where you can do obedience competition - so they like flat or slip collar only and would prefer you phase out treats (Frosty says no way to that one).

    Many different instructors, and big classes get split with one or two instructors per class - often one is calling the instructions and the other focusses on individuals - especially those who are having trouble getting their dog to do what they want. Certificate for rego discount provided on graduation of Grade 3 - which takes as long as it takes. Downside - if you have an off day for Graduation - you have to repeat a month. You can (I have) sneak around this by showing up to the morning class and if you fail - show up again to the evening class after a little more practice, and a different instructor - and pass that way.

    A lot of people quit dog club because they feel it takes too long, or they're done at grade 3 or they hate being told they have to repeat a month. But the other courses - the dog can finish / pass and neither owner or the dog have a clue what they need to do to get what they need/want.

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    I wish I had found an obedience club that like Hyacinth. The one I went to was horrible, there were was no choice as to the method you used we had to use check chains, even on 8 week olf puppys. No food was aloud past puppy school. It was also the most boring thing had done, exactly the same thing every week (heel, sit, stand up and back for an hour) and they didn't help with any problems.

    After saying that I do think obedience clubs are great, but they're not all the same. Like everything else you have to do your reserch, I've done courses with a delta trainer with both my dogs and while I do agree they're not for everyone, I loved it and got heaps out of it.

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