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    Asher and I had our 4th training day this afternoon. Our trainer speaks quite high of him, says he has come such a long way. He still won't stop lunging at the other dogs but the barking whenever they come close by is almost non-existent. Of course he isn't perfect, but he was quiet more times that the noise occured. Today, Leanne (trainer) deliberately sat her dog in front of Asher and was talking to me about how well he is doing. Asher made no sound, nor moved until her dog growled at him. He jumped forward with his full on barking. Leanne tried to intervene with Asher, held his mouth (from underneath), her face close to his and growled at him. Asher stood his ground and growled back at her. I watched with disbelief but somehow was confident that Asher had no intentions of biting her. As soon as she dismissed the situation she came back and patted him without any trouble at all. Leanne accepted that it was her dog's fault, that started the incident. A while later she came back to us to see how Asher was learning to COME when called. She told me she was going to casually walk her dog around us but would not let either of them hurt anyone. Asher paid no attention to the dog, kept his eyes on me the whole time and did what I told him.

    Leanne believes because of the way Asher stood his ground when she growled, that he has pit bull in him. She said most dogs would surrender when their owners do that but Asher stood up and growled back at her. I am not phased in the slightest. Just makes me more determined to keep him happy, and well-trained.

    We have our last session next week but we aren't stopping there. Leanne recommended a trainer that we can carry on our obedience, and good news is he is just 5 minutes away, compared to half hour that we're travelling at the moment.

    A lady that joined the obedience to do it with me has not liked Asher from the very start Leanne has been positive towards Asher but my so-called friend told me tonight, "There is nothing nice owning a dog like that." She has made this judgement on the situation where Asher stood his ground with Leanne but she has never had anything nice to say about him from the start, anyway. She wanted me to join her at a new obedience school in Port Macquarie but I am not going with someone who is happy to let me know how much she dislike's my dog. I don't care what anybody thinks, Asher is a good dog. Strong willed, has a social problem with other dogs but we are working on that. He doesn't growl at any of the ppl except that one incident today, and of course when ppl come to our front door. But when I let ppl in, he jumps on them with his usual greetings expression. Yes i need to stop him jumping but if they are happy to encourage him, how can I stop that
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    Quote Originally Posted by mydogau View Post
    Hello

    Asher and I had our 4th training day this afternoon. Our trainer speaks quite high of him, says he has come such a long way. He still won't stop lunging at the other dogs but the barking whenever they come close by is almost non-existent. Of course he isn't perfect, but he was quiet more times that the noise occured. Today, Leanne (trainer) deliberately sat her dog in front of Asher and was talking to me about how well he is doing. Asher made no sound, nor moved until her dog growled at him. He jumped forward with his full on barking. Leanne tried to intervene with Asher, held his mouth (from underneath), her face close to his and growled at him. Asher stood his ground and growled back at her. I watched with disbelief but somehow was confident that Asher had no intentions of biting her. As soon as she dismissed the situation she came back and patted him without any trouble at all. Leanne accepted that it was her dog's fault, that started the incident. A while later she came back to us to see how Asher was learning to COME when called. She told me she was going to casually walk her dog around us but would not let either of them hurt anyone. Asher paid no attention to the dog, kept his eyes on me the whole time and did what I told him.

    Leanne believes because of the way Asher stood his ground when she growled, that he has pit bull in him. She said most dogs would surrender when their owners do that but Asher stood up and growled back at her. I am not phased in the slightest. Just makes me more determined to keep him happy, and well-trained.

    We have our last session next week but we aren't stopping there. Leanne recommended a trainer that we can carry on our obedience, and good news is he is just 5 minutes away, compared to half hour that we're travelling at the moment.

    A lady that joined the obedience to do it with me has not liked Asher from the very start Leanne has been positive towards Asher but my so-called friend told me tonight, "There is nothing nice owning a dog like that." She has made this judgement on the situation where Asher stood his ground with Leanne but she has never had anything nice to say about him from the start, anyway. She wanted me to join her at a new obedience school in Port Macquarie but I am not going with someone who is happy to let me know how much she dislike's my dog. I don't care what anybody thinks, Asher is a good dog. Strong willed, has a social problem with other dogs but we are working on that. He doesn't growl at any of the ppl except that one incident today, and of course when ppl come to our front door. But when I let ppl in, he jumps on them with his usual greetings expression. Yes i need to stop him jumping but if they are happy to encourage him, how can I stop that
    I don't know any dog that would put up with this kind of crap from anyone! Batty would even stand his ground and growl back at a stranger doing this and he's almost 5 months old! I really don't blame him at all.

    IMO this is no basis to decide a dog has pit bull in it!

    Sounds like you are making brilliant progress with Asher, Congratulations !!!!

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    I'm no expert in training, but i wouldnt be holding any dogs mouth and growling at him to see what reaction there would be, and to say that because he did stand his ground, he must have pitbull in him is absolute nonesense and makes me ask what sort of trainer she is!!!!
    The woman who doesnt like your dog, well i wouldnt be going with her either.....

    Good on you for being responsible and taking the time to train your dog, how good will it be when you make the break thrus you know you will, and then go to obedience with her.....

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    I believe it is piffle, there are variations of temperament in every breed.

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    This woman is a TRAINER?!!! OMG I'm sorry but to make a general assumption that
    Asher has pit bull because he stood his ground is outrageous! I guess my old maltese that I had must have had pit bull in him too......

    Glad you are going to be going to a different trainer.

    Good on YOU for putting in the hard work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreysAreGreat View Post
    This woman is a TRAINER?!!! OMG I'm sorry but to make a general assumption that
    Asher has pit bull because he stood his ground is outrageous! I guess my old maltese that I had must have had pit bull in him too......

    Glad you are going to be going to a different trainer.

    Good on YOU for putting in the hard work!
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    If a stranger did that to my male dog he would most certainly stand his ground, or worse... especially if I was with him as he could easily perceive a threat to me as well as himself from that sort of action.

    He's a long way from pittie... I don't think any pitties have Borzoi ancestry...

    I think she's talking bollocks.

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    Oh piffle, bullocks, and everything that others have said.

    Look, she's a ruddy looney, okay. Lots of them out there on a power trip, I think.

    I don't think I've ever had a dog (other than Inca) who wouldn't have possibly rearranged her face a little bit. Seriously. Pffft.

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    Anyway, who'd be disrespectful enough and STUPID enough to do that to someoneelse's dog?

    This has peeved me off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    Anyway, who'd be disrespectful enough and STUPID enough to do that to someone else's dog?

    This has peeved me off.
    Annoyed me too!

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