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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela's Gone Batty View Post
    Sometimes other methods are needed for optimum results with the training.

    I have to be very firm with Batty and would probably get booted from any Delta training school - just for growling at him. If I don't growl when he's doing something bad and I do ignore him the behaviour stays the same. He doesn't care that much that I'm ignoring him.

    I hope that helps to explain the situation a bit better.

    ETA: You should always ensure you have as much information about as many different training methods as possible. There is NO such thing as one method works for every dog, if you believe that then you are lost already
    totally agree

    I tried the 'positive' way with my Staffy and her pulling on the lead. Finally put a check chain on her,one check, and she no longer pulls

    and you can say please and be as nice as you can to my bull terrier, but he dont give a rats about what you want him to to!

    I got pulled up for placing my dog into a sit by a delta trainer... i walked out of class and never went back

    I also believe in E collars, and think they are great things, if you are a delta trainer.. dont even think about looking at using one!

    I would never do a course with anyone that made you do it their way - i like to be able to think for myslef and know all options that are out there - doesnt mean i will use them, but they are there if i need to

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    Sorry I haven't gotten around to giving you much of a reply about the NDTF course yet. I was going to post up a couple of the questions so you could get an idea. Keep in mind that all the answers are in the work book you are given and then you go thru things during your practical sessions but we have been busy with visitors etc.

    Will get around to it soon though as I still have all my stuff.

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    Thanks MAC - take your time though! It doesn't look like I'm going to be able to do it just yet though (the course starts in May) because I just can't afford it! It's interesting to hear about it though

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    Frosty pulled like a sled dog even in a slip chain collar. She only stopped when I got a sensible front attach harness - from OMG - a delta trainer. I admit I will never do anything Delta because they're so against "don't do that" that they disapprove of the water pistol let alone the e collar.

    I admit to trying the e-collar for recall and getting it all wrong - and I didn't get the result I wanted either. There's no way I'm prepared to try again without someone who understands dogs holding my hand. Timing is everything and knowing how to time things for the individual dog is also everything. And it seems it is a good idea to do some conditioning - similar to "charging the clicker" before using the collar for corrections. And there are also techniques to avoid having a dog that knows it only has to behave when the collar is on ("collar smart").

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie & Bella's mum View Post
    Thanks MAC - take your time though! It doesn't look like I'm going to be able to do it just yet though (the course starts in May) because I just can't afford it! It's interesting to hear about it though
    HI Charlie and Bella's mum,
    I have been reading through this thread because I'm interested in other peoples responses, so thought I would write you a reply.

    I'm starting the course in May, I'm very excited, but nervous as well. I Hope it goes well, because I'll be cutting done my hours from full time to part time, so that I can concentrate on it, and then hopefully do further study, or even find a job.

    Do you know about the payment plan thing that they offer? This is what I have done, your pay $300 upfront, and then the rest over 5 months ($500 per month or so, depending on electives). And it comes off your credit card... though don't know if that is a good thing or a bad thing!

    If you are interested in this I would contact them first thing tomorrow morning, because when I booked at the end of Feb they said places were filling up fast.

    If you don't decide to enroll, or cant get a spot, then Id be happy to tell you all about it as I go, so you have more of an idea for later on.

    oh.. and btw, there is a thread on another popular dog forum (don't know if im allowed to post the name) where someone has posted a diary of the distance course that they did.



    ps. mouseandcat ill be looking forward to your next post as well!

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    Some random questions from the NDTF course
    In your own words explain the phenomenon of Sensitisation. Your answer should include information about the generalisation affect. Use an example to illustrate your understanding.

    There are many factors that affect the intensity of a stimulus and/or the level of response from the animal. List four.

    In order to teach a dog to fetch a can of Coke from the fridge we would use Chaining. The skill could be taught using either forward chaining or backward chaining. Why is it recommended to train the skill using backward chaining?

    Explain the training technique of Luring. List two pros and two cons

    When shaping behaviours it is ideal to use a conditioned reinforcer, also known as a bridge or mark, Explain how we condition a reinforcer and why it is beneficial to use one when training skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stef_07 View Post
    HI Charlie and Bella's mum,
    I have been reading through this thread because I'm interested in other peoples responses, so thought I would write you a reply.

    I'm starting the course in May, I'm very excited, but nervous as well. I Hope it goes well, because I'll be cutting done my hours from full time to part time, so that I can concentrate on it, and then hopefully do further study, or even find a job.

    Do you know about the payment plan thing that they offer? This is what I have done, your pay $300 upfront, and then the rest over 5 months ($500 per month or so, depending on electives). And it comes off your credit card... though don't know if that is a good thing or a bad thing!

    If you are interested in this I would contact them first thing tomorrow morning, because when I booked at the end of Feb they said places were filling up fast.

    If you don't decide to enroll, or cant get a spot, then Id be happy to tell you all about it as I go, so you have more of an idea for later on.

    oh.. and btw, there is a thread on another popular dog forum (don't know if im allowed to post the name) where someone has posted a diary of the distance course that they did.



    ps. mouseandcat ill be looking forward to your next post as well!
    Hi Stef,

    Thanks for your reply. I spoke to them last week and they told me that I would have to book by the end of this week if I wanted to get in for the May course. Unfortunately, due to a whole heap of other expenses we have at the moment (body corporate fees, a holiday in a couple of weeks, etc etc) I just can't afford it.

    The next course starts in September, so I will keep it in mind but we may be moving states at the end of the year.

    I'm disappointed, but you never know, things may change and I might get the opportunity to do it.

    Good luck with the course!!

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