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Thread: 4month Old English Mastiff Bites My 3yr Old Son, Seemed for No Reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    there is reasoning to the "madness" here. If your son feeds Doug...he will establish himself as higher in the hierarchy and as the provider of food!
    that's what we thought, but have been told not to let our son feed him for now.
    alot of people on this forum have said it and so have trainers so we are a little confused on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r.e.a.n.a View Post
    thank you every one on your ADVICE.
    we are noticing that Doug seems to be scared or unsure of Our son, so we have gotten a muzzle for him to have on around young children, we will get him looked at as soon as possible and go from there.

    have any of you had dogs that were scared of kids? if so what have you done to help change it?
    no not really...I have had a Rottweiler who "had a serious go" at my 2 sons just before he turned 1. He was returned to the breeder.

    The problem is..you don't know if something has happened in the home he was in before you got him. Did a child hurt him...tease him etc.

    Training is one thing...behavioural modification is another thing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    there is reasoning to the "madness" here. If your son feeds Doug...he will establish himself as higher in the hierarchy and as the provider of food!
    I can understand this if the child was older but I would have thought it would be dangerous given the son is only 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bordeaux View Post
    I can understand this if the child was older but I would have thought it would be dangerous given the son is only 3.
    you can teach a dog to accept a newborn baby as a "pack leader" and give respect, space etc.

    I suggest you wait until you have had Doug assessed

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    I dont mean any disrespect Clea, I'm sure you know alot more about dogs than I do but I cant imagine a dog execting a puppy as 'pack leader' why would it exept a baby or very young child?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bordeaux View Post
    I dont mean any disrespect Clea, I'm sure you know alot more about dogs than I do but I cant imagine a dog execting a puppy as 'pack leader' why would it exept a baby or very young child?
    Because a baby is not a puppy! It is a human and dogs MUST be lower in hierarchy than ALL humans in the family...INCLUDING children and babies!

    It is up to us humans to make sure dog sees baby/child as "pack leader by proxy" if you get what I mean! If the humans establish themselves as "pack leaders"...baby SHOULD automatically be "pack leader" by proxy!

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    A child of any age can put food in a dogs bowl under parental supervision.
    3 years is not too young.

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    he has fed Doug on one occasion, before this happened and he was fine with him,there was no growling or anything, it was just like when we feed him.
    I think there must have been something that happened to him before we got him, i contacted the guy i brought him off and he said he was fine with all of the kids around him, could it just be my son? we got Doug to smell our baby boy who is 5 1/2 months and seemed okay, but maybe because his a baby and not a small child running around.

    so Nash feeding Doug would help with the respect side, and show Doug that Nash and our other baby are higher up than him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by r.e.a.n.a View Post
    thank you every one on your ADVICE.
    we are noticing that Doug seems to be scared or unsure of Our son, so we have gotten a muzzle for him to have on around young children, we will get him looked at as soon as possible and go from there.

    have any of you had dogs that were scared of kids? if so what have you done to help change it?
    My APBT Bailey was petrified of children when she was approx 6mths old. She would cower, run and hide to get away from them. My ex partners children were 1yo and 3yo at the time, it was due to them being 'rough' with her when playing.

    However...........

    She NEVER repeat NEVER growled, mouthed or bit a child EVER!!!! And I would have made some serious decisions then and there to prevent it from reoccurring and to make sure the children were in NO DANGER WHATSOEVER!

    To socialise her with the children I would ALWAYS SUPERVISE and make sure they were really really gentle with her. I would never force her to interact with them as I found this would make the situation worse. IMO a muzzle would have also.

    I did not put a muzzle on her around the children however I was in a very different situation to what you are in now...she never bit a child.

    She eventually got to the stage where she would sleep in there bedroom when they stayed the weekend every fortnight and she would follow them around EVERYWHERE Please keep in mind this did not happen overnight!

    DO NOT FORCE HIM TO INTERACT WITH YOUR CHILDREN IF HE FEARS THEM!
    This could make the situation worse and possibly tragic.

    Im sorry I cannot offer any more advice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bordeaux View Post
    I can understand this if the child was older but I would have thought it would be dangerous given the son is only 3.
    Oh Sheet. I didn't read that! i thought he was 10. How did I miss that? My utmost apologies. We are talking about a toddler then? Oh Lordy.

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