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    Ash started obedience school today. He need to pass a test to be able to join the club which is in 6 weeks.
    At home when I do training with him, he generally picks things up well and is focused.
    One thing that he needs to work on is healing on the lead, without getting distracted by other dogs or people.
    Well he was a little too excited this morning, meeting new friends and also because he just got desexed on Monday and still has his stitches in, so we have had a quiet week.

    Our instructor pretty much dismissed him from the start. I was hoping to get some tips from her, and as I am new, to show me through the exercises. But she seemed to be wanting to get Ash done with so she could go to the more behaved puppies.

    I know he just needs some work, that's why we were there, but I feel like going to another club with more friendly instructors..

    What do other people think? Am I overreacting?

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    That's terrible! I'd be looking to go somewhere else, the whole point of obedience classes is to learn obedience! I hope you didn't pay for the classes already. Unless the club has another instructor that you can work with.

    Phone around and see if you can speak to someone at another club, explain he gets distracted which is why you want to do the lessons.

    Hang on, not sure I understand, he had to pass a test to do lessons which start in 6 weeks? Or the course is 6 weeks and the test is at the end of the course?

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    sorry should have explained myself a bit better. He's doing a 6 weeks course at the moment called the ideal dogs of australia (all the basic training- sits, stay, heading, recall etc) with a test at the end. If he passes it then we can join the club to do obedience classes 1-10 and agility.

    I have already paid for the course, though it's only $65 so I'm not too worried about that.
    I thought about asking for a different instructor but I think that she is the one that arranges it all so it would be a bit hard to explain why I want to change :S Also, the groups are separated into size/breed of the dog.

    I think I might have to look around for another school, I will give them a chance and see how we go the next few weeks, it just is disappointing though because i've been looking forward to it since they broke up before xmas, and I dont want ash to see obedience as a negative experience.

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    That sucks that your instructor dismissed you, I sometimes wonder why people get into certain professions when they can't take a genuine interest in every aspect of it. I hope instructor was just having a bad day and is much better next time.

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    This is really sad. If you aren't comfortable there, Ash will pick up on that tension and the whole experience will be that much more difficult.

    As someone else said, lets hope she was just having a bad day and go with an open mind next time.
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    I'm not quite sure I understand your post, but here goes.

    Are you saying that he was about to undertake a test to see if he could go onto another "part" of his training?? Was he at the end of his 6 wks or not??

    If he was at the end of the 6 wks she may have dismissed you/him because he was clearly not going to pass. While I disagree with the attitude of the instructor maybe she needed to move onto the others who would be passing.

    Having said that. This week I took my 2nd New Puppies class (runs for 6wks) which is a 1 hours lesson for puppies aged between 14 wks & under 6mths. 1 hour and 45 minutes later I managed to get away. My classes run fairly quickly and I don't linger on a lot of the basic toilet training etc stuff because they should have covered that in their puppy pre-school class. But at the end of class I always ask if anyone has any questions about the lesson or anything their dog is doing at home etc & that by all means I will hang around & help for as long as possible. Our club also invites everyone to the club house with their dog for a cuppa and a biscuit.

    This week for instance I introduced one of my class to a fellow instructor because they both have Bernese Mountain Dogs and could discuss away to their hearts content over a cuppa the quirks of their chosen breed.

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    I've re-read your post again.

    I would approach the instructor before the next lesson and explain that you felt you had been "passed over", ask if their was a reason, is my dog too far behind? I really need help, the other dogs seem more advanced. Butter her up a bit and see if you can get a response from her, if the response is inappropriate ask for your money back and go elsewhere, if she's surprised then the direct approach may be enough to give her a shake up.

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    stef 07

    just out of curiosity, what is "heading"?

    My obedience club doesn't have tests to join. There are very few reasons they'd exclude a dog or handler. One would be your dog attacks other dogs, and two would be you attack your dog, either way, someone would talk to you about it, not ignore you.

    My dog club is $55 for the WHOLE year (Feb through Nov weather permitting) for which you can go to classes, grades 1 through 5, tuesday morning and / or evening, and once your dog has graduated grade 5, and your dog is over 1 year old, you can start Agility. Frosty took the whole year to get from puppy, grade 1 to grade 5 and she's still not 100% on stay and recall off lead - which she really should have for Agility. She did a beautiful heel from day 1, but the instructors do say that's one of the hardest things. Personally - I think "come here" when she's got things to sniff and friends to greet - is harder.

    I always exercise her for at least 30 minutes before class, I show up half an hour early so she can greet all her friends before class. And I have lots of YUMMY treats so I can keep or regain her attention during class.

    Also I pay attention to what the instructors say to me and I practice that. They must have done something "to get Ash done" - what was that? If others are getting attention, if I can I pay attention to the tips they're given to see if I can use them for me. And if nothing much is happenning - I practice with my dog. If there is something going on in the middle of the circle with one dog, I will loop out away from the circle or line with my dog to practice, unless what we're practicing is sitting calmly in which case - I work on that.

    If your dog was "a little too excited this morning" chances are there was nothing your instructor would have been able to do for you but they should have talked to you about what I just wrote, before ignoring you and especially for the price.

    Also my club doesn't push it with puppies under 1 year old. A lot of the instruction I got was "be patient" and "master one thing at a time". Because I started classes when she was four months old, and I was trying too much. Eg for "Stay" work on time or distance but not both at once and certainly don't incorporate "come" at all until the Stay is working (not like the old days).

    If you can, ring them up. Our chief instructor's phone number is on our club website so if we have issues we can discuss what to do about it for next time. You must have a contact number? Ring them. Is the club run by volunteers or people who make a living from doing this, because it will make a huge difference to the price and the attitude.
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    I would talk to the trainer. And decide if you like the response. If not, vote with your feet.
    I joined a sunbury class to socialise my dog aggressive dog again. The woman i spoke to, assured me, that safety was paramount. I would be permitted to be on the oval, however, i must remain at a distance to other dogs where i had complete control. It all sounded great. Till we got there.
    First red flag: trainer comes running up to greet us, believing because she had food in her hand, my dog would love her. She soon found out that was an error. But i had him under control and he was made to sit and behave.
    2nd red flag, another owner, with a dog aggressive dog, was IN the class. His dog going off at all the small pups who'd come along for socialisation. Yep, they called it socialisation.
    3rd red flag. She wanted to take my dogs lead, and see if she could get closer than i could to the other dogs. At which ooint, i thanked her for her time and left.
    Then joined the local GSD club and WOW, what a difference.
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    MAC:
    yes it was his first class on saturday, tomorrow I will be taking him to his second class, it is good to hear an opinion from another trainer to see it from there point of view. I can understand how she may feel as though he was misbehaving so it would be difficult to work with him, although that's why we are going, and there is only 4 people in out group (class of about 30 is broken up into groups).


    Hyacinth: Sorry i misspelt "healing" and wrote heading.
    Ash is not aggressive or anything like that, he just wants to play all the time! But with this club he does need to pass the test to join, to show that he can follow basic commands. If we join the club then its $50 something a year from then on.

    Good idea of going to the class early. I will take him for a play first to try and settle him down, and have a chat to the instructor so she can see that I am keen to pass the class. This could have perhaps added to his excitement last week as we just went straight into the class, without many introductions.


    I have been doing training sessions with him in the mornings and he is getting better. He just cant stay focused for long, and it doesn't help that he isn't very interested in food (even though I do it before breakkie and have stopped giving him treats at any other time). Cheese gets him a little more interested.
    Has anyone else had this problem?
    They do seem like a well run club, so hopefully things go a bit better tomorrow.
    I'm unsure as to whether he will stay focused though, might have to wait and to more training at home before joining the club.

    Will give an update on how it goes

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