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  1. #11
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    Hmm

    I think that thing where you get the dog to walk by your side is called "heeling" eg following your heels.

    I think healing is what you do when you're sick and getting better.

    Gotta love the English language.

    Definitely take him for a 30 minute walk before class (if he's over six months), and arrive 30 minutes early for greeting time and a little bit of practice in that environment - if there are no dogs around to greet when you first arrive. Practice in as many different places as you can find.

    I found with Frosty, it would be all good in the back yard, then no good on the footpaths, then eventually I got her all good on the local ovals... and no good on the footpaths. She's very good at dog school - probably because I insist on her working in a way that I don't in the back yard or at the ovals. Still no good on the footpaths. Got a harness, now she will heel if I ask on the footpaths, but mostly I let her walk ahead a bit and sniff, unless we're at a road crossing, then sit and heel.

    Bizarrely - she always goes on my right on the footpaths - no matter which side the road is, and she goes on my left for everywhere else. Agility requires a dog that will work from both sides so I don't fuss about it too much.

    Each new environment required me to start over from the beginning or at least step back the level of expectation eg - 15 second stay, not a 30 second stay etc.

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    I've been a member of several clubs over the years and I've never heard of having to pass a test to join?? What's the point of going if you have to pass something before you join?? Weird! We have to pass something before we go up glasses.

    I'm currently taking "new members puppy" class for dogs 16wks to 6mths. They had to do nothing but pay their money and get an appropriate collar and lead if necessary. During our first lesson I told them what they required in addition, correct shoes to train in, a bum bag or treat bag & "wet" treats (not dried food) and a good attitude.

    After six weeks they will all graduate and will go into "advanced puppy" class until each dog reaches 9 months old unless they are really doing their homework in which case they can get tested and go up into 1st Class.

    I can't remember what the annual fees or joining fees are, not much and a $2.00 grounds fee each week is payable at the "joining table".

    I have to pay attention to each and every puppy, no favourites, no ignoring the silly puppy, no ignoring the other pups in class because of the silly puppy.

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    Stef, have you tested to see if he has a toy/ball drive.

    Forcing food on a dog that is not food motivated is punishing him.

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    MAC your club sounds like the type that I'm looking for. your not in melbourne are you?!

    Yes Ash looooove ball, if hes not sleeping or eating he pretty much always has a ball it his mouth.
    The thing is i dont really know how to use it to reward him. If I ask him to do something, and let him see that i have the ball, then he crouches down as though to get ready to run for it, and wont budge coz he's so focused on the ball!

    I have been able to get him to sit before throwing the ball to him. But I'm thinking anything else would take a very long time...

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    No I'm in Sydney and I can't think of a Sydney club that runs the way yours does. As I said before weird.

    You use the ball the same way you use food.

    Start with a bridging word and give him the ball, over and over again, so that he connects the bridging word with getting the ball.

    In the case of ball "crazy" dogs, you need two balls and the dog on a lead so that you can real the dog back into you. Teach him a release the ball word, say, Give. He'll release the ball because he can see you have another one. Every couple of times you have to throw the ball so that he stays interested.

    If you've ever seen the sniffer dogs at the airport work think along the same lines. The only difference is that any scent dog gets it's reward every time it find it's target.

    I hope this makes sense, I'm terrible at typing out instructions. Your club should not be limiting itself to only food rewards, because it's the dog that picks the motivator.

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    No way move on and find a club that really wants to help you and your puppy

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    Quote Originally Posted by bernie View Post
    I would talk to the trainer. And decide if you like the response. If not, vote with your feet.
    I joined a sunbury class to socialise my dog aggressive dog again. The woman i spoke to, assured me, that safety was paramount. I would be permitted to be on the oval, however, i must remain at a distance to other dogs where i had complete control. It all sounded great. Till we got there.
    First red flag: trainer comes running up to greet us, believing because she had food in her hand, my dog would love her. She soon found out that was an error. But i had him under control and he was made to sit and behave.
    2nd red flag, another owner, with a dog aggressive dog, was IN the class. His dog going off at all the small pups who'd come along for socialisation. Yep, they called it socialisation.
    3rd red flag. She wanted to take my dogs lead, and see if she could get closer than i could to the other dogs. At which ooint, i thanked her for her time and left.
    Then joined the local GSD club and WOW, what a difference.
    Vote with your feet.
    you dont need a club to train a dog. You need you and the dog and learn how to.
    Very nicely put Bernie ... On so many levels.

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