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    Hi. we have 2 Boxer puppies who are brothers (de-sexed) and are acting aggressively towards each other (not all the time, but every now and then). Started when they were about 5 months old and at 8 months old it's still happening. It happens when they are on the lead, when you hold them by the collar and occassionally during play if it gets too rough.

    We figured they were just trying to establish dominance / order and would grow out of it ...but to date not yet! They never fight over toys, food, drinks, treats or with any other dogs. They are separated daily as I take one to work on alternate days. They LOVE everyone and every other dog. But all of a sudden they just turn on each other...



    Any thoughts?

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    What do you mean by too rough? How do you know its getting out of control?
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    i know what you mean , our BC brothers are the same...one is neutered.
    they play and sit with each other when they can get to eachother but as soon as one of us gets near them, the de-sexed one starts werewolf eying my dog and growling, then they fight .... :s ..

    they are both lovely, the desexed one is a little rough towards the cats tho,

    they are separated all day, they live in separate areas of the property so its all good.

    im not sure what you can do to fix the problem, i find separation working great and they only see each other briefly prob once a day x
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    HI - in too rough - they rumble alot, gentle biting, rolling, running, and then you can just see it when one of them starts to pin for just a little to long, or a paw goes up on the shoulder a little too long...so it's never drawing blood, it's just dominant positioning which then turns into a scrap! We've tried leaving that for around 10 - 15 seconds and then when its not stopping, we step in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppyx View Post
    i know what you mean , our BC brothers are the same...one is neutered.
    they play and sit with each other when they can get to eachother but as soon as one of us gets near them, the de-sexed one starts werewolf eying my dog and growling, then they fight .... :s ..

    they are both lovely, the desexed one is a little rough towards the cats tho,

    they are separated all day, they live in separate areas of the property so its all good.

    im not sure what you can do to fix the problem, i find separation working great and they only see each other briefly prob once a day x
    Thanks for the feedback! Alas our property is more an inner city house - albeit with a big garden! So keeping them in different areas not really feasible! But really appreciate the feedback - thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by edcomm View Post
    HI - in too rough - they rumble alot, gentle biting, rolling, running, and then you can just see it when one of them starts to pin for just a little to long, or a paw goes up on the shoulder a little too long...so it's never drawing blood, it's just dominant positioning which then turns into a scrap! We've tried leaving that for around 10 - 15 seconds and then when its not stopping, we step in.
    it is normal play between 2 males!

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    hi edcomm,
    we have 2 pups, one is a boxer, the other is a kelpie. they have grown up together and are now 20/22 weeks old.

    the boxer is a little more rough in playing, and sounds similar to your pups. The lady at our puppy school told us that it is just normal puppy play unless they draw blood (which they have never done) they not to worry. Sometimes they start growling but as soon as we tell them off they stop, so they know when to draw the line.

    The only thing they get serious about is food which i think is just natural. so we feed them separate.

    Although our pups are a bit younger that yours.

    I'm a first time puppy owner ( ) so this is just a personal opinion, but maybe just keep trying to show them that they are equal in your eyes.
    Our boxer gets jealous of our kelpie easily. Kelpie loves to play ball, but boxer gets jealous, so we only play ball when kelpie is separated. Just little things like that to minimise aggression.

    Do you have any photos of your pups? Would love to see them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by edcomm View Post
    Thanks for the feedback! Alas our property is more an inner city house - albeit with a big garden! So keeping them in different areas not really feasible! But really appreciate the feedback - thank you!

    always welcome,
    just remembered something...i read a really interesting article on breaking up dog fights, written by a GSD breeder and dog trainer from memory- this is for safety though to avoid getting your hands in the way grabbing for their collars etc when you break it up. my sister got in the way when they were pups and has a scar to prove it.
    anyhow, They say to get the dogs back legs and lead away to separate them.

    when i took mine to work, the werewolf eyed one had a go at him while he was tethered, i thought i would try it....so i got his back legs and wheel burrowed him back and he walked away.....

    i cant say i ever really need to use this unless they are full on but its safe..especially when they're at the biting stage .

    has anyone heard of this, or is it just me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stef_07 View Post
    hi edcomm,
    we have 2 pups, one is a boxer, the other is a kelpie. they have grown up together and are now 20/22 weeks old.

    the boxer is a little more rough in playing, and sounds similar to your pups. The lady at our puppy school told us that it is just normal puppy play unless they draw blood (which they have never done) they not to worry. Sometimes they start growling but as soon as we tell them off they stop, so they know when to draw the line.

    The only thing they get serious about is food which i think is just natural. so we feed them separate.

    Although our pups are a bit younger that yours.

    I'm a first time puppy owner ( ) so this is just a personal opinion, but maybe just keep trying to show them that they are equal in your eyes.
    Our boxer gets jealous of our kelpie easily. Kelpie loves to play ball, but boxer gets jealous, so we only play ball when kelpie is separated. Just little things like that to minimise aggression.

    Do you have any photos of your pups? Would love to see them!
    Will get some pics up! THanks for the feedback...weirdly the boys are almost teh exact opposite! Great with food, toys, us...just each other! Ah well, we've done puppy pre -school, some basic training but obedience classes start next Saturday! Maybe we can help cure it there!

    Time to find some cute pictures out of the 5000 we have taken since we got them when they were 9 weeks old!

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    Buying siblings is not always a good idea, but anyway that's not going to help, but I thought I'd put it out there for others. I would never sell two puppies to the same family.

    My puppies are only 4 weeks old and are just starting to have the odd little squabble, at this age it only lasts about 3 seconds.

    It is normal behaviour. They are sorting themselves out but because they are so equal (age, size, sex) it may take a little longer.

    Just make sure your not paying too much attention to the one that is losing the fights.

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