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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppyx View Post
    always welcome,
    just remembered something...i read a really interesting article on breaking up dog fights, written by a GSD breeder and dog trainer from memory- this is for safety though to avoid getting your hands in the way grabbing for their collars etc when you break it up. my sister got in the way when they were pups and has a scar to prove it.
    anyhow, They say to get the dogs back legs and lead away to separate them.

    when i took mine to work, the werewolf eyed one had a go at him while he was tethered, i thought i would try it....so i got his back legs and wheel burrowed him back and he walked away.....

    i cant say i ever really need to use this unless they are full on but its safe..especially when they're at the biting stage .

    has anyone heard of this, or is it just me.

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    Just wanted to say a BIG thank you for this wheelbarrow tip!!!! It has been absolutely brilliant! We've spent a good week now stepping in (using the wheelbarrow) and reprimanding them for the behaviour. And this week...only 2 scraps...so far!!

    Thank you again. The wheelbarrow is great! Plus I can't remember who told me the methodology for stopping them fighting when both on the lead (walk separately, and slowly bring them together & separate if they start) - but this too is working great. It's common sense I guess but I clearly needed a 3rd party perspective. So thank you very much to everyone for the advice...we'll see how we go - puppy school started this weekend!

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    Ed

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    Quote Originally Posted by edcomm View Post
    They are separated daily as I take one to work on alternate days.
    Hey,
    Please do not take this the wrong way but this could be your problem. If you are saying you take one on monday and the other on tuesday etc.
    The boys do not know which one is your pick for top dog so they are still trying to work it out on their own. If this is the case all you need to do is assess which one would be the better top dog and back that one. Feed it first, pat it first, if the argue send the other away whilst you reasure the top boy.
    Just remember dags are pack animals, they need to know where they fit into that pack. By doing what we think of as fair we are ytelling the dogs that THEY are the ones who have to work out where they are in the pecking order, and that makes them nervious.

    SO... after all that, if that is not your situation then I am sorry. Just taking a stab at what it might be

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashaari View Post
    Hey,
    Please do not take this the wrong way but this could be your problem. If you are saying you take one on monday and the other on tuesday etc.
    The boys do not know which one is your pick for top dog so they are still trying to work it out on their own. If this is the case all you need to do is assess which one would be the better top dog and back that one. Feed it first, pat it first, if the argue send the other away whilst you reasure the top boy.
    Just remember dags are pack animals, they need to know where they fit into that pack. By doing what we think of as fair we are ytelling the dogs that THEY are the ones who have to work out where they are in the pecking order, and that makes them nervious.

    SO... after all that, if that is not your situation then I am sorry. Just taking a stab at what it might be
    Hello there...yes that is a consideration- and I appreciate the feedback. However, I have 4 dogs, and I can only take 2 at a time to work at a time (an agreement i have with my co-workers in the office!). So I rotate them around and mix them up! I started separating the boys in with the other 2 on the trips to work on the advice of a trainer who advised it would be best to separate them as much as possible while they are young so that they do not develop a litter mentality and do realise that they have left the litter. So its 2 different dogs every day on rotation! We have tried making one top dog - feeding him first, letting him in the garden gate before the other, first in the car - first out etc. BUT...if it doesn't cease 100% in the next few months I will take your advice and try just only ever taking one of the boxers to work in rotation with the others... Thank you again for your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashaari View Post
    Hey,
    Please do not take this the wrong way but this could be your problem. If you are saying you take one on monday and the other on tuesday etc.
    The boys do not know which one is your pick for top dog so they are still trying to work it out on their own. If this is the case all you need to do is assess which one would be the better top dog and back that one. Feed it first, pat it first, if the argue send the other away whilst you reasure the top boy.
    Just remember dags are pack animals, they need to know where they fit into that pack. By doing what we think of as fair we are ytelling the dogs that THEY are the ones who have to work out where they are in the pecking order, and that makes them nervious.

    SO... after all that, if that is not your situation then I am sorry. Just taking a stab at what it might be
    Oh...but I will take that re-assuring the one we want to make top dog and sending the other one away tip! Haven't been doing that...just reprimanding both. Thank you.!

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    sure Just make sure you pick the one that is best for top dog. If you take one with you to work and not the other then back the one you take. The fact that you take him with you is telling the dogs that he is you pick.
    Luck!

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    I have four adult dogs and often take only one or two out at a time all the time.

    Every time I go to a show I take the two that I am currently campaigning with me which are the younger bottom of the ladder dogs.

    Upon my return I always go thru the garage, where the dog food is stored, grab a biscuit to two, open the rear door of the garage let the ones that have been out with me out with the other dogs and give all a biscuit.

    I build their individuality from day one. One allowed to sleep on the end of the bed, all the others out in the night run, rotate etc.
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    MAC. I know, I do the same but it is different in some pet households, they have monday, tuesday, wednesday system that just confuses the dogs. Im not saying that is the def. problem here, just an idea from my experiences with clients with similar problems.
    And I am guessing that your dogs, as with mine, know who is the top of the pack and so taking the others isn't viewed as a threat.

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    I thought they had 4 dogs and its the younger siblings that are fighting?

    I still think further separation of the siblings is the go. Do they take on the older dogs or is the fighting only between the siblings.

    Having worked in kennels we would put the puppies out in the yards to play together but often back in the actual runs they would be put with other slightly older dogs so that they would be told when to stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mouseandchicken View Post
    I still think further separation of the siblings is the go.
    I agree. If they cant play nice then thats the only way to keep them from hurting eachother.

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