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    I must be the only one whos had a good experience with them.
    The trainer I see was trained by delta, I've seen her on and off over the last 3 years and she's been great.

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    I used to do delta pets as therapy, i was kicked out of every home because of my breed of dog - Delta did nothing to back me up

    I was going to do their course, 2 weeks before i was due to fly out, they contacted me and told me to not bring my dog, that "those kinds of dogs" were not welcome. I told them to shove it

    since then I have had the Delta lady here in town go off at me in public twice, once about the crate, and another time about a prong collar - she made a total fool of herself LOL

    She has also told a lot of people I have no skills or qualifications and to stay away from me.

    Oh, I also had another one of the delta ladys tell me not to place a dog I was training into a sit, i was at the normal obedience, where any method of training is ok, i told the dog to sit, she did not do it (but did know what a sit was) so i placed my hand on her bum, and slightly pushed down, dog sat... trainer came over and told me off for doing it... i walked out of the class and have not been back.

    I do understand not everyone likes the same way of training, and if they want to do what they do, that is fine, but do not call me cruel and say **** about me because i choose to use a check chain and train in a different way to them.

    At least I can look at other methods of training and understand they may not be for me, but work for those people... Delta see themselves as right, and everyone else is wrong!

    Sorry, they really annoy me! LOL

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    I dont blame you for not likeing them Terrorbull, thats horrible.
    I'm starting to think the trainer I go to is out of the ordinary when it come to delta.
    While she doesn't use check chains she hasn't said anything bad about them. I dont know her stance on crates as I dont use one so the topic hasn't come up.
    But I do know she doesn't have any problems with bull breeds and doesn't turn away any breeds. She got quite angry when a passer-by interupted the class to tell me Madeline was nasty and should be wearing a muzzle There was also a beatiful pittbull in my class

    Sorry for going OT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terrorbull View Post
    you are lucky you have a dog club!

    We have 1 here, that is about to fall apart very soon!

    We do have another Delta group, but they are ****, if your dog barks, it cant come back, if it wont do what it is told, you cant come back.... grrr......!
    I can't believe what I have read about this mob. The idea of you wanting to learn to train your dog is to teach it not to bark or to teach it to come when called. Do they expect the dogs to already have qualifications before they join their groups? That is a disgrace to Delta. Bordeaux you are very lucky to have the only good apple among a bad batch - obviously someone who likes dogs and understands them to be able to work with them and have patience plus to make it fun for them.
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    Terrorbull, I almost had the same experience as you. Placing dog in sit, was told I was being cruel. When I asked how she planned to achieve the same thing with a dog that knows sit she said she would withhold the treat.

    Couldn't resist telling her that to my dog withholding food is a harsh form of punishment.

    Changed clubs quick smart.

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    I still giggle when i read they are a POSITIVE training group...

    Ok, so Positive Punishment is what exactly? Ohhhh, doing something TO the dog, like a check on the chain!

    Withholding food would have done nothing for this dog i was training, or one of mine, they do not give a rats about food!

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    The front attach sensible harness I recommend for pulling dogs is supplied by one of our local delta trainers. She told me some stuff I already knew, tried and wasn't working for getting Frosty to come. Actually all I really needed was to keep going and be patient, what I knew was right, and worked eventually though not as good as the really reliable recall techniques.

    Anyway - she thought using a squirty bottle for "stop that" was bad. Not outrageously bad but bad. Really and truly sometimes you have to make your dog stop or surprise it or distract it. I did start to avoid direct hits after that and found near misses just as effective as a distraction. But Frosty never seemed bothered by a direct hit either. She will run deliberately into the path of the hose from time to time.

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    Asher's 2nd night at training was pretty good. Our instructor noticed before I did, how less Asher barked this evening. He barked when other dogs got too close and I still don't trust that he wouldn't try to hurt them but while we stood in our own space he was very quiet. He does his SIT & DOWN so well and his heeling is getting better. We learnt that each time the lead goes slack we reward the dog so he learns he is walking good, or its a tug-release-tug-release thingy if he lags or tries to pull ahead or to the side. I only had trouble with him pulling when we went past the other dogs. Once we were past them he walked beautifully by my side. We have been practicing our heeling but the instructor says I need to change my treats from the milk coffee biscuits as too much sweets isn't good for anybody.
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    I always recommend "wet" food for treats eg sausage, cut as small as you possibly can.

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    I might get some frankfurts for next week eh? I bought some Pork Liver treats. Asher has put on 4Kg since I've had him, I don't want him getting overweight. He is looking good though. His ribs were sticking out when we brought him home so now I think we need to maintain his weight. Save that for another thread.

    Week 3 and Asher has already proven to be a terrific learner. Excellent at sitting, down and stay, and heel and only had 2 half hearted barks this week. Even the trainer said she is impressed with him. Week 1 she said she thought she was getting "one of those" type of dogs but we practice what we learn at home, and its paying off. We even walked passed the other dogs without his barking (too much). He pulled to run to them but I was in complete control most of time - yes that sounds terrible - I do get caught day dreaming but our trainer says I am half his problem because I don't know how to use the check chain. When I pull him back I need to release the check immediately so he knows when he is with me his lead is loose, if he pulls it checks him. I am keeping it tight after I've pulled him back and he has stopped pulling. I am having difficulty relaxing but just another thought to work on.

    We only have 2 more weeks but I want to continue on training, hoping that I can stop Asher from charging at other dogs. I can't tell if he just wants to run and play, or run and fight so I need the training as much as he does. I don't want him learning that being allowed near other dogs is wrong. So how will I teach him? I just heard last night there is another training that recently began in town. So when I finish at the Rocks will head for the one closer to home.
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