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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    The cake would have been nicer if you'd remembered to put the egg and sugar in too.

    And if you ate some DA, you'd probably feel better... though chocolate might be more effective.
    I have no idea what you are on about sorry, Hyacinth. ???

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    I doubt she would feel better after eating what she cooked

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    I post too slow DA.

    I have no idea what you are on about sorry, Hyacinth. ???
    When I wrote about the egg and sugar - I hadn't read what you wrote about the packet cake - so far we'd only gotten flour and milk in proportion for making glue.

    As for eating it to feel better, you wrote somewhere else about feeling cranky. Low blood sugar / not enough food can make me cranky or over react to things that normally don't bother me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    Boxerini

    5-10kg dog: 120gm to 250gm a day.

    I find with the kibble I feed - one yogurt pot (200ml) holds about 100gm of dog kibble - but it varies depending what kibble you have.

    What I do is find some container I can use for a daily measure - like an empty yogurt pot and fill that up and weigh it. Or I weigh out how much I want to feed each meal and find a container that fits it and mark it with a texta at the right height. If you change brand of kibble or from puppy to adult - you will need to do measure again.

    And my Vet says for a desexed dog - they need 1/3 less than the packet recommends. So say you guess based on exercise level eg moderate - you can start in the middle of the range that would be about 120 +half(250-120) eg 120 + 65gm ie 185gm but 2/3 of that is 123gm ie near enough the bottom end of the range. But somewhere between 120 and 150 would be a good place to start for a small desexed dog on that brand. So weigh that out, find something that will hold that, and use that to measure her food.

    Like the others have said - do not leave her food out after five to ten minutes. Do not leave her food where the cats can eat it (clearly they're not hungry either).

    Do try to do your training sessions before breakfast/dinner. That's what I do. Frosty only gets half her breakfast before dog class in the morning and the rest around late lunch time when we get home. Seeing how she'd normally be fed around 9:30 after morning walk and class doesn't finish until around 11:30am - though she could probably wait that long.

    A 250ml measuring cup would hold 250gm of water - but kibble has big holes between pieces and is much less dense than water so a measuring cup - as I have measured holds about half the weight of kibble (depends on the kibble so get your scales out) as it would of water. Note measures are defined so 1ml (volume) of water weighs 1gram. But that doesn't work when you use kibble.

    Ie a 250ml cup of kibble in my experience weighs less than 250gm like about 125 to 150gm.

    I have fed the soft food (casserole) separate to the dry food and I've fed them together. I haven't noticed much difference to what happens to the dog unless she gets car sick in which case we get pure whole kibble back hours after breakfast and no casserole so I don't feed kibble before car trips I think she will be sick on (windy stop start roads). Mostly I feed the casserole first and let her top up on kibble if she's still hungry. Sometimes I put the kibble in a treat ball to let her play with it as she seems to prefer it as a game than straight out the bowl. But I avoid leaving food out all day.

    If you're feeding lots of treats, you can also cut back on the kibble - it's hard to know how much if your dog is a pig, but if she's the sort that stops eating after five to ten minutes and you stick with that, all is good. Otherwise you keep a diary of food and treats and exercise and if she's getting fat increase the exercise and reduce the food... Always measure. If it's still getting away from you, check what other family members are feeding her (don't get mad at them - remember keep it positive or they will only learn to lie to you).
    say what?! All I got was scales and water and kibble. I havent got scales, so I have no Idea.Wait. How about if i feed her 1/2 cup at brekky, and then if she leaves some, just go by that? would that work?

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    OIY - Are you dissing my cake recipe? Ok - horses look nervous when I cook - but still

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    I post too slow DA.



    When I wrote about the egg and sugar - I hadn't read what you wrote about the packet cake - so far we'd only gotten flour and milk in proportion for making glue.

    As for eating it to feel better, you wrote somewhere else about feeling cranky. Low blood sugar / not enough food can make me cranky or over react to things that normally don't bother me.
    Oh cool. Actually, I am hungry. But I have run out of ripe plums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occy View Post
    I doubt she would feel better after eating what she cooked
    I'm sick of cooking. True. There's got to be an easier way.
    Like with our clothes, I haven't dug out an iron in over 10 years. I just pop anything that is wrinkled between the bed mattress and the base, and wallah, presto, take it out next morning and it's pressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxerini View Post
    say what?! All I got was scales and water and kibble. I havent got scales, so I have no Idea.Wait. How about if i feed her 1/2 cup at brekky, and then if she leaves some, just go by that? would that work?
    Well, that's a fair way of judging it TBH.

    What she leaves, give a bit less next time, or visa versa. Cheers.

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    Boxerini

    If you haven't got any kitchen scales to weigh the food - you aren't going to be able to follow the kibble feed amount recommendation.

    Do you know anyone with a set of kitchen scales? Ask around? Does your school have scales in the science or home ec classrooms?

    I don't know what brand of kibble you're using so I can't say how much 1 measuring cup / 250ml would weigh.

    But I guess you could start by using a 200ml yogurt tub - and assume you can get 100gm of kibble into it, so if you divide that into two meals with treats - maybe feed half to 3/4 per meal and see how that works. Start with half and if it's gone in 30 seconds, add half again ie 1/4 tub?

    It depends, because that method would not work with most labradors or very piggy dogs - they'd finish the entire 15kg bag of kibble if you let them. They'd be sorry later but they'd still give it their best shot.

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    Showers are really good for pressing shirts too - just leave them in the room whilst you shower and the humidity will do the job

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