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    Question Inducive or Complusive Training

    Which method do you personally think is best?

    Having dogs growing up we used the inducive method but I would like people's opinions on using the compulsive method too.

    Inducive training is when you use treats to train them to follow commands. Complusive is when you move them into the position you want eg. for sit you would physically (and gently) place them into the sitting position followed by the word 'sit'.

    So which method worked best for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megan View Post
    Which method do you personally think is best?

    Having dogs growing up we used the inducive method but I would like people's opinions on using the compulsive method too.

    Inducive training is when you use treats to train them to follow commands. Complusive is when you move them into the position you want eg. for sit you would physically (and gently) place them into the sitting position followed by the word 'sit'.

    So which method worked best for you?

    TIA
    I have used both, because it comes down to individual dog really. I had a Rottweiler who wasn't food driven, so training him with treats wasn't a big success. He was however highly prey driven, so he would get a special toy when he had completed a task (like they do with sniffer dogs etc). With my staffies...both being extremely food driven...I find it easier to train them with treats

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    I have used both, because it comes down to individual dog really. I had a Rottweiler who wasn't food driven, so training him with treats wasn't a big success. He was however highly prey driven, so he would get a special toy when he had completed a task (like they do with sniffer dogs etc). With my staffies...both being extremely food driven...I find it easier to train them with treats
    I'm yet to meet or hear of a Stafford that IS NOT food driven

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    I think using food is a cop out, the dog should want to perform for you wanting only praise as a reward. I have seen many dogs not work when there is no food reward yet a dog who is trained without wont have that problem.

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    Depends on the dog, IMO. I use a mix of both, eg say sit, place the dog in a sitting possy then praise.
    I usually do not use treats, but yep, sometimes have to reinforce when praise seemed not enough.

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    Compulsive and inducive.

    Ie: the treat was kind but calm praise from me. That is enough, agree with Mal there 100%. I would guide the dog into whatever position I was teaching and commanding.

    Used treats here and there for dogs whilst teaching soft mouths, as in taking food ever so softly out of a baby's hand etc. Other times I just give treats, well, because I want to, or the dog has deserved a special thing.

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    Our working dogs though were never given treats, worked well for praise (all except Shadow who worked well till he decided a command was not a good one and he knew better, so he moved them where he thought best, then he was put back on the back of the ute as a barking machine)

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    I did both.

    Sometimes in combination, ie "luring" - luring the puppy to the right place using the treat. And sometimes the treats didn't work so had to use other ideas - usually play and games. Forcing a dog to do the whatever and then giving a verbal cue - hasn't worked at all - not by itself. Sometimes I physically put Frosty in the proper sit by leg position and then treated her. Mostly I could just lure her with a treat or toy to where I wanted.

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    Treats, Treats, Treats mine will do anything for them, it certainly gets their attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogman View Post
    Treats, Treats, Treats mine will do anything for them, it certainly gets their attention.
    Fair enough...will they do thing without a treat though?

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