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Thread: Prong Collars, Why?

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    Confused me too, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Di_dee1 View Post
    As I said in my post re Boris, it was shoot him or try the despised electric collar.
    exactly!

    We might get to a point where we are willing to try anything to be able to keep our dog. I think...EVERYTHING and ANYTHING should be tried before getting the needle at the vet! That includes professional training...E-collars...prong collars etc etc. ANYTHING would be better than putting my dog down. Prong and E-collars are temporary tools...euthanasia is forever.

    How many can say they have a perfect dog? Not many I think...most dogs have some sort of imbalance being either...afraid of thunder storms...hate cats...pull on the lead...chew up your furniture...aggressive...over timid...excessive barking...not listening etc etc. The problem is that we do not contact people like Steve UNTIL it is so much out of hand we are actually considering putting our beloved pet to sleep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimi1 View Post
    "I don't like people who think like Mimi deciding for me what tools I can and cannot use"
    Hyacinth. I have only spoken about my experience. I have every right to express MY opinion. I you read my posts, the word "I" is clear in every sentence.
    Funny how the people who attack are the same ones. Just read Kassie's threads and you will see the same names appearing.

    But Mimi the difference is that most people ,do have a different opinion.
    But they dont fly off the handle like a scalded cat proclaiming that we're cruel and must'nt love our dogs .


    I don't mind you having a different opinion,but don't try and shove it down my throat and certainly dont tell me I'm being bad to my dogs.Especially when you have not ever tried it,even considered it in fact.

    You seem very comfortable there in your own little world,you dont seem to want to consider anything that some-one else has said or tried.But then you get upset because some dont agree with you.

    Where you said your dog ran upto ababy and licked its face , it was so cute and sweet you said.Why didn't you call her off ?! As far as I'm concerned that is blatant display of just what not to do. Like I said in my post,if it had been me,I would of let you have it.

    And who are these 'names' that keep appearing,doing the attacking etc ?
    I'm assuming I'm one of them ?
    I question what seems off to me,always have always will.


    You know what? this is a Public Forum.People are not going to agree 100 percent of the time,that is just human nature. So we cant be huggy huggy all the time? It does not make us 'mean' etc
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    ok here we go...
    "Animal trainers and the RSPCA have condemned the use of 'pinch' or 'prong' collars "
    nottingham.co.uk
    they are illeagal in the UK
    if not fitted correctly the prong collar can be slipped over the head and do damage to the eyes

    the rspca in australia does not advocate the use of these collars.

    the prong collar has now begun to have rubber tips put on the prongs to try to reduce the instances of grazing and or skin piercing caused by the collar.

    i also found some interesting information, about haltis, while the rspca does approve of the correct use of head collars, they should not be used on an out of control dog as muscle injury to the neck may be sustained

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    oh also i found many trainers who said the prong collar worls as a control not a training device...which means that the dog behaves because he know the consequence not because he is demonstrating a learned behaviour

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    ok well my headstall looks like the second one i dont care either way i wont use it again the walk is meant to be enjoyable and if shes uncomfortable its not

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    "Gentle Leader and Haltis are two seperate things!"

    I have tried both. I don't like the GL...it needs to be fitted very tight (yes...it was fitted by our Vet) and it left dog having problems breathing. I don't like the Halti, because it is like a light is switched off in my dog...like you have taken all his drive away and you are walking a robot. Nope...it didn't fix the problem...it for sure managed it. I was walking this limp thing next to me on either the GL and Halti.

    I don't believe in shutting down the drive in my dogs...I believe in working with what nature gave them. That Sumo has a bit too much drive right now...well, that will be fixed and dealt with!!! But it will not be managed/fixed by putting on a GL or Halti...it will be fixed with training and consistency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChoppaChop View Post
    But Mimi the difference is that most people ,do have a different opinion.
    But they dont fly off the handle like a scalded cat proclaiming that we're cruel and must'nt love our dogs .

    I don't mind you having a different opinion,but don't try and shove it down my throat and certainly dont tell me I'm being bad to my dogs.Especially when you have not ever tried it,even considered it in fact.
    Choppa. With all due respect. I told you nothing. What you have read are my sentiments on the subject.

    You seem very comfortable there in your own little world,you dont seem to want to consider anything that some-one else has said or tried.But then you get upset because some dont agree with you.
    Firstly, I do not get upset. Secondly, you are free to agree or disagree. We are debating methods and some will and some wont approve. But you seem to want to convince me that YOUR method is the right one!

    Where you said your dog ran upto ababy and licked its face , it was so cute and sweet you said.Why didn't you call her off ?! As far as I'm concerned that is blatant display of just what not to do. Like I said in my post,if it had been me,I would of let you have it.
    [B]Mimi was swimming at a dog beach. A young mother had her son sittin on the edge of the water. Mimi who was coming back to shore, saw the baby and as she does with EVERYONE she meets, she runs up to them to greet them. This time, it was no different. I was there next to her as she went to lick the baby and then went up to the mother to say "hello". The mother patted her and smiled.
    And who are these 'names' that keep appearing,doing the attacking etc ?
    I'm assuming I'm one of them ?
    I question what seems off to me,always have always will.

    Look at Kassie's thread


    You know what? this is a Public Forum.People are not going to agree 100 percent of the time,that is just human nature. So we cant be huggy huggy all the time? It does not make us 'mean' etc
    I agree 100%.

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    Mimi with all due respect, I have not tried to convince you of this at all.

    The baby episode I still stand by ,it was wrong,simple as that.

    Like I said,I would of let you have it and we are an experienced long time dog family. But I still will not allow any strange dogs to just come upto my kids,especially the face. Nor do I allow my dogs to do thesame unless i'm asked or I ask first.

    What about the Kassie thread ?

    Just so we're in the topic here,what will you do if you even end up with a strong,self opinionated,high drive dog?
    When leads,haltis,check chains, harness just dont do it,what will you do then ?
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    Cappy loathed choker chains - wore one once and went to ground - couldn't get him to move at all. Pinch collar? Walked fine and was quite happy. Martingale is what we used for most of his life and it's my tool of choice personally. I love how people quote the rspca, when they are the ones to be the first to deride them, for not doing their job in other threads.

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