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    Hi Ozeymum

    I hear you - I know how demanding (my brother's) kids can be - much worse than my puppy and she has just worked out that if she barks a lot - I get up, put her on lead, and take her outside to see what the barking is about - great fun for her, but I'm not getting anything useful done.

    Have you tried training "quickies"? Ie instead of trying to get half an hour at once, try 2 to five minutes at once - when I started training at home - that's all I could do because that's how long Frosty's attention span was. So I'd do lots of little five minute or 30 second quickies.

    We still do them at the park and I'm actively looking for places with distractions now - so your kids could help (maybe - depending on how old they are). I get Frosty to do a heel, sit, stay, and go, and she runs around like a nutter, and then we do it again - she comes of her own accord and stays for the treats or attention or both and then leaves of her own accord and I tell her "go" and let her go. I don't even do any of this on lead. Same deal in the back yard. Sometimes I'll clip a lead on - but I still let her go as soon as she loses interest.

    I did read somewhere that the click and treat thing can be used to (slowly) train pound dogs to bark less ie as a trainer or staff member walked past a cage - if the barking dog stopped for any reason, instant click followed by a treat tossed in the cage - and that's all. Takes 2 seconds to do.

    So maybe just before you let Candy off lead at the park you make her do a quick circle on lead and not pulling or at least being held in the heel position and then sit for unclip and go. Start with trying to get "watch", build up to heel. Lots of squeaky attention getting talking or just a really short lead - and not to get unclipped until she looks at you (watch) good dog - unclip - go and then build up to what you want - but don't do the lesson of the day for any longer than 30 seconds.

    If Frosty is at the oval and I don't unclip her - she pretty soon looks at me to try to figure out why or tell me off - there's your "watch". And she's also worked out she doesn't get unclipped until she stops pulling and sits - mostly cos I can't get the clip undone unless she does.

    Does that make any sense?

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    Yes..that's makes sense and thanks for your advise

    I do have the clicker..I have only used it for Candy's recall....it was a great tool. I will look up on more clicker training and see how we go.

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    Wish I'd known about these when Amos and Chloe were still here ( r.i.p ) they were both pullers no matter how much we did with them. Definitely keep in mind when we get a new puppy.

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    I got the Gentle Leader Easy Walk Harness for Ziggy (the same ozeymum got for Candy) and it worked wonders!!! Unbelievable!
    Unfortunately, after 4 days wearing the harness Ziggy started limping and I checked what was wrong - two nasty looking sore spots from the harness... I asked at our obedience school and they said it is fitted correctly though. So I guess I have to pad it somehow.
    But the great thing is, after these 4 days Ziggy walks soooo well on the lead just with her normal collar. Like she finally realised where we want her to walk when she is on the lead

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    Bintang, my 5 month old kelpie x constantly pulls (he is amazingly strong for such a little fella) and is always excited at puppy training, pulling even more so the trainer suggested a "cannyco" collar, which goes around the top of his nose connecting to a collar. he protested strongly at first, throwing himself on the ground like a two year old but eventually he started walking beside me nicely pausing at times to rub himself on the ground in an effort to get it off. i tried to put the collar on Bintang this evening without success. this claims to be kind and painless, the trainer assuring me he will eventually get used to it but i cant even get the bloody thing on him without having my hand ripped to shreds. i hope i havent wasted $35!! more importantly it would be nice to enjoy my daily walks with Bintang instead of dreading them

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    Most state consumer laws have a "fit for purpose" requirement for good sold. So clearly the "cannyco" collar is not "fit for purpose" in Bintang's case so trainer should refund your money.

    And then you can look at getting one of the front attach harnesses. Read this thread from the beginning to find the links to the product websites.

    Nose bands for dogs or horses do usually offer more control but they're not painless or completely safe - they can break an animal's nose if used incorrectly. The effect is similar to twisting an ear. All good - no twist. Naughty behaviour - slight twist, increasing pain with increasing pressure.

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    we have tried the harness and normal collar with gyps, and although she heels beautifully with dano, and couldnt give a fat rats freckle about other dogs when shes with him she does with me. SO i brought her a halty, because she is far to strong for me to hold her back, on a normal collar or harness, and with the halty if she tries to have a go at another dog i can shut her chompers. i tried it yesterday and she HATES it but by the end of the walk she wasnt trying to get it off and was heeling nicely. however if i unclip her and let her loose on the oval with it on she immeadiatly falls to the grownd puts her head in her paws with this mournful expression on her face!! i feel bad coz she doesnt like it but i need to be confident i can control her

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    oh and when i use it i never pull on the lead, the only time the halti tightens is if she pulls. i hate seeing people yanking their dogs on any sort of lead, harness or other contraption. i nearly got out of my car and kicked this guy who was yanking on his dogs slip chain=z

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    Hi Laura77

    Was your harness the sort you clip on at the front - ie dog's chest or one that clips on the back ie behind the dog's sholders? The front attaching sort give you a lot more control because as the dog lunges, she also rotates around that front attach point and ends up facing you. Hence much more control - with much less strangulation than a collar.

    Halti / gentle leader noseband type attachments work for my dog too but she really hates them and it's hard enough to get her to go for a walk in the first place.

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    it was a back clip one. i took her for a walk today and she was so excited she put her own nose into the halt!!! so maybe shes getting used to it. i still like the halti coz i can close her mouth =/

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