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    Hey Hippo
    Had to make our walk short as it started to pour with rain, but so far so good. It is heaps easier to control Lola, she stays closer to me, and easier on my arm. She's mainly bad to walk when she sees other dogs, cats or bikes so we need to go for a proper walk and see how she goes but i do like it so far.

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    Frosty has managed to lunge in the harness but she can't sustain it the way she can with a neck collar. And I can hold her back even in the lunge with one hand. I don't need two hands and leaning back with my body weight. She's very quick to remind me when I've put the lead on the collar instead of the harness (or forgotten to swap over after putting the harness on).

    Glad you like it, Magdalena, hope it keeps working out. I'm sure it will. And I've actually put mine through the wash in a frontloader in a stocking bag and it survived. My puppy dog does love to crawl (when greeting dogs and people) and gets all sorts of dirt and sand caught up in the belly bit of it.

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    Awww...a crawler, cute!
    Good to know it's washible too. I'm always washing Lolas collars as she loves to run through muddy water, Misi tippy toes around mud/water-so funny

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    Wellllll...... we are back to using the haltie!!! After 2 days..Candy is back to pulling and because she constantly pulls...the harness is rubbing her left shoulder.
    I might look into getting a harness set from blackdog...it comes with a dbl lead and not only buckles up at the front of the chest, but also at the top/back and both sides. This way I can have duel control without constantly having the harness pulling at the one point (if that makes sense )

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    there's something called a "harmony harness" available in QLD but I couldn't find anything on the net about what it looked like or exactly where you get it from - it looked like through one of the dog training groups like a "delta" trainer.

    Ozemum - you had the easy walk harness? And Candy still pulls despite the rotational force that a front attach would make - sheesh. Does she like food? I get Frosty to heel in the slip collar (dog club requires) with food. Although I think in grade five we may have to learn to go without and the commands come so fast I don't have time to find the next treat anyway.

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    I am sure the harness I use wouldnt rub if was fitted properly...my dog sounds like Candy. It needs to be loose across the chest when standing as it tightens when the dog sits. If you feel resisitence thne its too tight and will rub.

    However the food thing didnt work for me as she is more into pulling then eating. If you read the instructions it says you can attach it to the regular collar as well.

    I thought if my dog had somthing to pull it might help her use up this need and not pull for me. So we harnessed her to a wagon used for collecting the fire wood. She LOVES this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluenanou View Post
    I thought if my dog had somthing to pull it might help her use up this need and not pull for me. So we harnessed her to a wagon used for collecting the fire wood. She LOVES this.
    LOL...we also do this with Candy! We have a bike trailer and Candy loves to pull the kids (just the little kids, one at a time) around the yard

    Candy does love food and she works well with treats...however, our problem is mainly heading TO the dog offleash park. She's just too excited to care about food, heel and listen. Once she's had her play, she's fine.

    I will go up to our local obedience club next time and ask one of the trainers to make sure I have fitted her harness correctly. But for now...it's back to the good ol' haltie!

    Hyacinth> Yes..she's a strong girl...and not even 1 y/o yet! The slip collar or check chain are useless on her (even with food)...I am constantly checking her back to the point my left arm should be the size of a body builders arm by now!! lol
    The harness does do it's job..but yes...she still pulls. The harness is constantly strained..therefore her left shoulder is getting rubbed.

    We are going on holidays next week...so once we get back...we'll make sure I have it fitted properly and I think it might be best if I take Candy somewhere new...so she doesn't think we are off to the dog offleach park. She 'might' be a lot better (fingers crossed..lol).

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    Hi all

    Yes Frosty sometimes still pulls but I can hold her back with one hand - not like when the lead is attached to the collar - then I need two hands and my bodyweight. And yes sometimes she ignores food altogether. We had another session of "Nyah Nyah can't catch me" this morning - I ended up chucking a cricket net over her . She was very naughty and put paw prints all over the soft cricket pitch (black sticky mud) despite the opaque plastic fencing all the way around it. She can jump it beautifully, curses.

    And when we get near our evening dog park - she does pull when she gets line of sight with it, but for me - that's not very far, and I can avoid the anticipation by going various different ways to get there. And also by walking her in little circles. With the sensible harness - I have the most control when I shorten the lead up so she's right next to me, and apply most of my force almost straight up - ie not dragging back but lifting up.

    It's fitted so that the bit across the back is the same length as the bit under the belly, and is just loose enough for me to get my thumb in when she's sitting, and the chest bit is fairly loose. I think the whole thing is a little bit too loose at the moment as she has managed to get her elbow the wrong side of the girth bit a couple of times - but only when she's rolling around on her back. By time she gets up - it's all where it should be.

    At dog obedience it's all about keeping her attention and not letting her get away with being naughty, ie always bringing her back to heel. I've yet to make her heel always when we're out walking the local footpaths, I figure sniffing is ok. But when we see another dog, or a busy road or a curb, I make her sit and wait. She is starting to do this without me telling her to, but it's taken months.

    I figure if the harness doesn't work, your only chance is training and persistance - in some sort of rig that doesn't rub and doesn't strangle the dog. Ie dog starts to pull, make dog sit or turn around and go the other way. Repeat lots. Work out what the dog's payoff is and make sure it only gets what it wants if it's being good - eg sitting nicely or heeling nicely. Might take a very long time to get to the off lead place but less pulling would be worth it.

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    Ohh. That's no good. Poor Candy

    I got the 'Sense-ible' Dog Harness, Dog Training Supplies | Sense-ible and Sense-ation Dog Harness. Lola still pulls but is much easier to control and if i pull on it harder she sits which can be a pain when she does it every couple steps I've had no probs with chafing but she has longer hair than Candy.
    The 'Sense-ation' has 'Softouch' webbing (smooth, rubbery fabric) under the tummy meant especially for dogs with short hair.
    Lola is like Candy- pulls like crazy to get to the doggy park and walks fine on the way back. I noticed that most of the other dogs at the park are the same. Maybe give the 'Sense-ation' a go Ozeymum It looks and feels better quality than others I've bought in the past. No sharp edges etc. I was worried about rubbing too before I bought it. They also come in 1 inch wide straps more suited for Candys size. Also with the one I have ít's meant to be loose around the chest. You're meant to measure the circumference of your dog ( just under the front legs& all the way around)and half of that measurement should be the chest band.(adjusted to suit)
    Here's some contact details just in case;


    Adelaide Pet Dog Training are the agent for these
    Contact Person- Bodil or Tracey
    PH. (08) 8272 0018
    M. 0409 991 530
    email- bodil@petdogtraining.com.au
    Good luck!
    Oh! and have a fantastic holiday!!!!
    Last edited by Magdalena; 09-17-2009 at 07:45 PM.

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    Thanks Mags...for the info...and I do hope we have a great holiday (I'll miss my pets though )

    Hyacinth...yes..'training and persistance' is what Candy certainly needs. My main problem is quality training time. I still have my youngest 2 kids home with me nearly full time..and I can't train Candy with them about as they require my attention too. I tried to walk Candy with them...LOL, it was just hopeless!! Like a worked racehorse having to walk at a retired sheltands pace...not fun!

    I can't train her at the park as this is her playground...so I really need to get some timeout without the kids, take her to the obedience club grounds and train as much as possible.

    I am confident she will get there. She is one of those types that mature later than others. I still have good hopes of getting to obedience trials and tracking

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