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    Had a quick read and my initial thoughts were similar to Pawfectionist that it didnt sound like at this stage too big a deal. My thoughts were also that you broke the routine of not playing with her was the problem. I have left single dogs at home for long hours while I worked and regardless of anything I always had that routine of exercise before and after work. Sometimes I was walking the dog at midnight lol. It is essential for high energy dogs and miss that routine at your peril.

    As to marrow bones, some of my dogs have been very heavy chewers and I often left a marrow bone. The trick is to scrape out the marrow and cut off any excess fat for dogs that are prone to overweight or potential pancreatitis issues. The cartilage on the head and the honeycomb structure is good for the teeth, my dogs teeth are all shiny and white even in old age and have never had dental issues. Mine usually eat right down till just a little knub of solid bone of the shaft is left. I ususally have them cut lengthwise and then in quarters so they get a quarter. I am pretty sure that feeding kibble is not enough for dental care, certainly has not been for my dogs. I tend to give them a bone once every week or two and that seems enough to do the dental job.

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    Woah. Okay. I'm in bed and I've just gotten off a late to early and a double shift on top of that so I'm pretty tired, so I've just skimmed this.

    I think you guys took MY comment a bit too harshly haha? I didn't really take offence at all (I even did a smiley face!), I was just explaining myself and I was fully aware what was meant - about dogs training their owners.

    As I stated earlier I don't believe she has separation anxiety anymore, I just wanted to be prepared for it if it was the case. It's better to be prepared than not. Interruption in her routine was actually the first thing I mentioned to my partner.

    I was at no stage repeating the same behaviours, which is why I was a little confused? This was a change in circumstance and environment (and one that had immediately just happened when I posted this), which is why I posted my question. It didn't come around from reinforcing negative behaviour.

    I don't believe she's a bored dog. She doesn't destroy or even chew anything she's not allowed to, and she doesn't bark/whine or display any negative behaviour when she's alone. (Hyacinth I believe in another post I told you how we've set up cameras due to the barking complaint to prove it wasn't her).

    As for bones, again as I previously stated everyone has different opinions about them. There has been research into dogs eating bones and there have been both positives and negatives. As I said my dog gets through them ridiculously quickly and I just prefer not to use them because her eating marrow bones every day just isn't suitable to me. (Please don't take offence to this, as I said - different opinions!).

    On another note, my dog has allergies so the types of food she gets is limited because of this. Yes I am aware you can get different types of bones. I still don't like bones for various reasons, again, my opinion.

    So yes. I hope you can see where I was a little confused about how my dogs apparently training me (as you suggest by me repeating the same behaviour) when none of my comments or my initial post had anything to do with her having bad behaviours or me reinforcing them, considering this was a one off incident due to a change of circumstance.


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    As I said in my post, it certainly didnt sound like a big deal, just a break from a usual routine. Yeah people have different opinions on bones but if you read my post I was talking about 1/4 marrow bone once every 1-2 weeks purely for dental hygiene. Certainly not every day.

    In terms of dogs training one, I think they can just get very set in a routine and can become anxious or upset if the routine is broken. I tend to have my dogs on a variable routine because I can, but it is more difficult if your own life has a fairly set routine due to work etc.

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    Yeah I agree. She's definitely her happy self like normal. And haven't had a problem since.

    And yeah I did read what you said, but I still don't like bones for various reasons, the main one being how fast she goes through them. She doesn't just leisurely gnaw at bones, she eats them - fast. Even with constant supervision it's just not safe for her. There's always the risk of splintering and intestinal blockage, and I'm just not willing to take that chance. I'd definitely never leave her unsupervised with a bone. If your dogs a gnawer and not at risk of eating the entire thing in one shot by all means go for it. It's just not suitable for all dogs. Dogs who are likely to bite off huge chunks and just swallow them (like mine) shouldn't be given bones.

    She only gets dry food for dental hygiene purposes, and gets her teeth inspected & cleaned by the vet when we go in (which is at minimum 6 monthly). Still no sign of any issues or gum disease which is great.


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    My dog goes pretty slowly on cow hoof...

    But I don't give her marrow bones - not worried about the marrow (I can cut back on her dinner ration) but she makes splinters and swallows those.

    The trick is finding a balance between something that doesn't get chewed to bits too fast and something that is so hard and tough it breaks the dogs' teeth (I suspect deer antler may be dog teeth breakers).

    Saruh - sorry we didn't get your joke. Writing the opposite of what you mean (eg sarcasm) almost always fails on the internet unless you are among people who know your attitudes to life really well

    Glad you've had a happy resolution to this problem that wasn't really a problem (my favourite kind - the sort that go away on their own).

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    It wasn't sarcasm or a joke. It just wasn't intended to be taken the way you guys took it :P.

    No harm, lets just leave it be .

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    Some of mine are heavy chewers (cattle dogs) and will demolish a bone in one sitting but they have never splintered a marrow bone from a cow. (They will splinter sheep bones). The head of the bone is cartiledge and honeycomb bone and they chew that off so all that is left is the stub of the shaft which is solid bone. Been doing this for 30 years and never had a problem. A friend of mine lost her 3 yo dog under anaesthetic during a routine dental clean. So I guess you pick your risks. None of mine have ever needed a dental clean.
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    Yeah as I said each to their own. There's risks associated with everything, and everyone has different circumstances. We don't get a dental clean like that (sorry, should've specified)- she literally just gets a good and proper tooth brushing from the vet and inspections. Although we have gotten her teeth cleaned properly twice when she was already undergoing anaesthesia that we just asked to be done seeing as she was already going under (once when she was desexed and once when she had to undergo allergy testing).

    She loves the teeth brushing though. They use flavoured tooth paste haha. And then he just gets in there with this little pick thing that she doesn't seem to mind at all.

    She also has a few dental toys which as she's a chewer are definitely beneficial.

    I'm not saying there's anything wrong with bones for other dogs - I just don't like them, they don't suit my dogs needs/her situation.

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    Glad that all that is now sorted ! Phew !

    Bones are an important part of any pup's diet. 'Saruh' - Have you tried whole chicken carcasses ? My 2 love them and it is a really convenient packaged meal for them.

    Have a look through the articles on this link. There is a lot of really good information there.

    Vets All Natural | Dr. Bruce’s Articles

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    do you have trees/bushes in your garden you can hide food in?
    my dogs love to scavenge to find 'treasures'. You mention your dog likes chew toys. Perhaps hide them? up high, under the ground, over an obstacle to get to them etc.

    Another entertainment pack i have is a large red gum log, that my GSD must fetch daily, from the back of the property, to his bed. It rolls in all directions, and takes him ages to 'herd' it to his bed. It is too large to carry, bite into to, so it must be rolled. And it doesnt roll straight either, so a complex task for a GSD to conquer daily. But conquer he does. through sheer determination daily. Ive watched this task being performed many a time, it takes hours to accomplish, half a day roughly.

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