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    Hi there :-) Hoping I can get some advice on an issue I'm having with my two dogs.

    So I have two dogs - one is a 10 year old cross bred and the other is a 6 month old GSD X Malinois. The young guy isn't quite old enough to go out for big walks yet (mostly doing dog park, fetch and training sessions at home with him), but the old girl loves to go out for an early morning walk in the bush, of about 5km. The problem I have is that the pup - being of GSD descent - is very shall we say 'vocal' when I leave with the other dog, screaming and carrying on, then settling to a more manageable level after about 5 minutes. It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for the fact that the most convenient - and mostly the only - time of day to walk is 5:30am and I don't exactly want my neighbours to hate me.

    When he was younger, he was fine when I left, but then the old girl had a bit of a heart scare so we stopped walking until we got the all clear from a cardiologist with her. Since I started walking her again, he's been really going crazy.

    I thought about maybe giving him a bone, and while he chews on that, take the old girl out, but I don't know if that sends the right message?

    Anyway, I hope someone here can give me some tips because I'm really out of my depth here.

    Thanks in advance :-)

    Cheers,
    Gen Y

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    Hi Gen Y

    Seems like your puppy is doing his best to train you.

    I think a bone for him (as long as he's good with bones unsupervised - mine isn't) when you go out or some other treat might make him happier about missing out.

    For my dog - I try to get her some sort of treat when I go out. And maybe a five minute round the block walk for her first - which I think helps - she's done patrol and now she can relax.

    At club training she used to yell when I parked her (in a crate or with a friend) and went off to do things like setting up the agility equipment without her. She on the other hand was quite happy to go possum hunting without me. So it wasn't separation anxiety, it was more about "missing out".

    So noisy dog gets covered up so noisy dog can't see out. And if noisy dog is quiet - a little bit of the cover is removed. If dog starts getting noisy as I approach - I turn and go the other way - ideally out of sight. For some reason - she was one of the dogs who shut up when I disappeared, and made the most noise when she could see (or hear) me. Other dogs are fine (in their crate or tied up) while they can see their owner and get noisy when they can't see them.

    it's a matter of starting small - maybe at a sensible time of the day on the weekend and having practice sessions.

    beware of puppy training you.

    One of my favourite trainers, Susan Garrett, gets out bones for her dogs when thunder storms are around but before they get close and noisy. She calls them "thunder bones" and her dogs are a lot calmer about thunderstorms with the bones. Ie it gives them all something else to think about.
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    Thanks for the advice, Hyacinth. I will give the bone a go over Easter. Really keen to get walking with the old girl again (as is she, no doubt!).

    I'm starting to think crate training might have been a good idea. We opted not to as our older dog is not crate trained, so figured it would be tricky to crate train one, but not the other..?

    Thanks again :-)

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    I agree - it's best to crate train both. You will need two crates...

    You don't have to keep the doors closed all the time but it's good practice to have it closed some of the time.

    if you get a wire crate for the puppy (until it learns not to chew on the wire - and you will need to supervise and interrupt this if it starts)...

    you will need to put a flat slab of cardboard or similar over the top to hold the cover away from the wire so the puppy cannot pull it into the crate and chew on it.

    but don't start shutting the door until the dog loves being in there. Then shut door for a short time and gradually build duration until it's no big deal...

    Possibly the easiest thing for you to try (with the bone) is the five minute walk with the puppy - just to get a bit of sniff in - then the crate/bone, and walk the other dog.

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    Just an update on this. We've paid a lot of attention to this issue over the weekend in preparation for a bit of separation tomorrow (our old girl has to have an echocardiogram to figure out what's up with her heart). I've thought more about crate training but it's just not really an option here due to the set-up we have, but we have been trying to distract the young guy with something else, while we take the old girl out. He's gotten a lot better. I still wouldn't be comfortable leaving with the old girl without my husband at home to deal with the pup, but I'm confident we'll get there.

    On another note, after a lot of practice at home, we've been venturing out for little walks (just around the block - well under 1km - in fact probably half that) in order to practice loose leash walking with distraction. He is doing super well and walking beautifully. In fact, just today someone actually came out to tell me how nicely he was walking :-) You win some, haha!

    Cheers,
    Gen Y

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    hi Gen Y

    Thanks for the update.

    You think a GSD x Mal would be a fast learner... and so he is.

    If your old dog is going to be spending a lot of time at the vet - she's going to be put in a cage while she's there... ie vet-crate. This happens with any dog that needs surgery or a plane ride or just a bit of rehab if it injures itself.

    So it's a good idea to train a dog to enjoy being in the crate but I can imagine with two big dogs it might be hard to find enough room. I would probably have a soft sided crate instead of the bed, but I've got room for both - sort of. At least the crate is the bed spot in the lounge (if the couch isn't) and there is a bed next to my bed - which I could swap for a crate if I needed.

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