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    How have you taught your dog to heel or walk close by your side with distractions? Not the dog show style heel, just walk by my side. Thank you

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    Check chain worked a absolute treat for us. Although i was taught by a trainer how to do it correctly......so the 'check' chain doesn't become a 'choker' chain.


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    food.

    lots at a high rate.

    Erm got the show style heelwork with that.

    The other was stop and wait, encourage dog back to "reinforcement zone" and praise. this was especially on the footpath between home and the park - because she would not take treats then, she would just launch to the end of the lead into four paw drive and pull as hard as she could. The club instructors had no effing idea what to do about this and what they told me set us back years. Massive yank and crank fail.

    If I turned and walked the other way - it was the same. She was just completely freaked out for ages.

    If I had known then what I know now, I reckon I could have fixed it inside a week or so. Sigh.

    So the loose lead walk - out in front of me cos that's convenient for both of us - I simply stop if she starts pulling too hard. She knows the "back back" command and the heel (Get next to me) command so I can use either of those or "What do you think you're doing" to get her to loosen up.

    Just a mechanics comment on this one, it's best to deliver the treat from the same side hand as you want the dog, and to tap the side of your leg at dog nose height before you hand it over when the dog is in the right position. Only hand food over when the dog is in the right position.

    But your mechanics can be awkward as long as the dog figures out what you want.

    I use the word "yes" not a clicker because that just makes me completely unco in treat delivery - it's one too many things to be holding.
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    what do you use for treats?
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    Black hawk biscuits ... She loves them and they are little.She loves small bits if sausage but that is way messier also cheese but that has lots of salt so am careful

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    Evil hound works for pretty much anything.

    So mostly it's part of her dinner ration kibble eg black hawk holistic...

    Slightly "higher value" is mini goodos which I tear into quarters - it's a softer treat so she doesn't choke on them as often but she will inhale roast chicken too which is super soft. I use that as well, and left over pie crust, mashed potato - a tad messy but needs using up - might as well make her work for it.

    Fave treat is roo jerky or roo ribbons. roo ribbons are good because you can rip them up into tiny pieces.

    She likes smackos but those cost $stupid per kg - not like mini goodos and she doesn't like them any better than mini goodo.

    And she works very hard for anybody else's treat. Even if it's the kibble I just handed over from my pouch. It instantly has higher value (more desirable) than the same kibble left in the pouch.

    So evil hound is not that fussy.

    There are some things she likes better than food. Like a good game of chase followed by victory laps with the sun hat...

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    I use this dried dog treat thingy which my dog loves but I've switched to his normal black hawk kibble since this morning. he can go through about 8 dollars worth of whatever I was using before in about 2 or 3 days depending on what we're doing and that's too much.

    I didn't know I could use normal dog kibble. but yeah I'm using it and he loves it as well.

    I'm not sure if he would respond to me if I was using science diet or something else though. Some kibble he won't touch so I was really happy that my dog loves black hawk because its cheap as well.

    my dogs such a pain at the moment. It's like he's forgotten how to walk. I taught him how to fetch yesterday and I thought, "wow that was really quick", but this morning it was totally gone. if he had only remembered half of what we did yesterday that would have been fine but it's like it never happened.

    and he's lunging at people if they acknowledge me or him during our walks. they'll be like "oo that's a nice doggy!" and then he'll lunge. if there is another dog there is no control at all, I have to be on the other side of the road. luckily there isn't too many other dogs around when I walk him...
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    Hi Goggles

    I wouldn't be too bothered about how your dog learns quick and then forgets quick.

    There has been at least one study that suggests one training session (on one specific "trick") per week works better than three sessions per day...

    Usually when they're just learning something - they don't always twig to what it is that they're supposed to be doing. Especially if you're using food as a bit of a lure. It's better to use food as a bit of a distraction ie something that's there, they can see it but they must ignore it to get the task done before they get some.

    So I work on a few different tricks, and review a few old tricks and try to do a few new tricks each week... so we're not working on the same thing all the time. Otherwise - we both get bored.

    And keep the training on any one thing, really short fast and fun.

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