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    I live next door to a JRT, who lives a dreadful life, isolated from its family, in a back yard. He's old, entire and i love/hate this dog.
    My dogs would love to try to kill it through the fence which is tennis court type fencing 2 foot high, keeps the JRT in somehow. All dogs get on famously, if they meet him when they are out, and he's been let out alone by the owners.

    Now, this dog, has learnt to escape. Issues gallore in this.
    1. When i pull away, drive up, the dog is occasionally loose on front of my property, and my fear is id run it over. I would feel dreadful if i did that i know.
    2. Owners are elderly, can no longer get about on foot, so bascially have not walked it since i moved here 3yrs ago, instead, they open the door and let it wander alone. Dangerous behaviour.
    3. Fence barking. If JRT is behind a fence, he thinks he's well hard, and tries to savage the fence looking mean at my dogs. My dogs have been trained to leave it, as we run this gauntlette daily on our walks. If the dog gets out, and joins us, he's so happy to be out with us, never aggro, clearly only up for barking from the illusion of fence protection between my dogs and him.

    I have tried to train this dog NOT to bark as we enter/leave. I can get silence, from all 4 dogs, with food reward for JRT. But then as we move it starts up again. And there have been loads and loads of townies here at w/e walking, who trigger unmanaged fence barking in JRT which is very rewarding.
    Owners are as frail and elderly as their dog. Deaf so dont hear the dog either. And not friendly folks. Previous attempts to ask them not to let the dog out loose, = told i was a whinging pohm, which i am i guess. When we first moved in, in first week, old git comes knocking my door to complain about my GSD barking at him when he gets up in the night. I got a gruff old git, complaining just as much about his prostate gland as my GSD barking at him. TMI or what?

    If i call ranger, dog will end up in lost dogs home and PTS with being well a JRT who's at least 10yrs and has a lot of tude!
    How old do these dogs live in australia? they live to be 20 yrs in uk. I dont fancy 10 more years of this bloody yapping, and fear i'll run it over stuff.

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    Is there a JRT rescue / rehome or a rehome place for elderly people's dogs or maybe just a community group (some councils have info) that could organise dog walking for this dog?

    It seems a bit rotten your choice is organise dog to be PTS or put up with barking.

    any chance you could give it something to eat that lasts a bit longer so you can get out? Kong full of frozen food or a raw hide or roo jerky or something? One of those rolling treat dispensing balls?

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    Last night, i had neighbours son at my door. He was there to advocate on behalf of his elderly father as my dogs have been barking and setting their dog off. Doesnt want to cause a fuss. I invited him in, as it was normal parade of dog walkers going past the property. Took him out the back, my dogs are NOT barking. But viola! someone is coming down the path toward our properties. JRT goes off, yap yap yapping non stop. My dogs do not bark until they see the person cross our boundary. then its the warning single "im here" bark and silence, whilst JRT is still yap yap yapping way past when they had moved off.
    I asked if he had 5 minutes to spare, as i would like to show him something, he agreed.
    I showed him 5 very short videos' i had taken filming my grandaughter playing around on deck, learning to talk cute phase. Taken over the month of december. In all 5 videos i showed him, over day and early evening times, there is a theme song playing in every single one, JRT yap yap yapping!

    He said he was sorry, he hadnt realised that his dad had the problem dog. My neighbour on the other side came over as guy was leaving. I explained to her that he was concerned my dogs are barking, that he is the son of the elderly couple that live next door. Neighbour (god bless her) stated, that's rich! your JRT hasnt shut his mouth for the past 5 yrs ive lived here. AND they let the dog out unsupervised. And that farmer can shoot that dog for worrying the cows as he does.

    We left it there, with son going back to report that whilst our dogs do bark, they stop fast. Whereas their dog never stops and is worrying cattle and could be shot or run over by a car. He said that he didnt know what they could do about the JRT barking? So i asked, well you were fast enough to complain when you thought i was the problem, what had you expected me to do? he didnt have anything to suggest, but to say except 'sorry, i feel a fool for coming here now.

    I just thanked him for being not too proud to back down. And suggested bones/kongs/puzzle toys to entertain the JRT during the day, and we agreed he'd ask them to keep the dog in overnight so as not to wake us. Some neighbours are great arent they? some not so great.

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    I feel a bit sorry for him, he's gotta deal with his parents and he can't get rid of them by moving away...

    At least he was willing to hear your side and see if he could work on them.

    It's a worry that his parents are so willing to blame your dogs for everything. That's not going to be easy for anybody to fix. I know I can't get my mum to do what I ask the first time I ask - she has to figure it out for herself like it was her idea.

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    I kinda feel sorry for both of them. With age, ive seen their once beautifully manicured lawn and flower beds, turn into overgrown meadow.
    And the dog, what a life, no walks.

    I am used to my large dogs getting the blame. People make a lot of assumptions regarding medium sized black dogs with brown muzzles and eyebrows n chest. Ditto for GSD's. Its part of ownership of such dogs, that you must always think like an ambassador to the breed.

    the old git is not the friendliest of folks anyhow. I see him hobbling around indoors, looks like he is a lot of pain. that makes folks extra grumpy. Just like my bitch Pohm. Grumpy as all hell in mornings, as her arthritic bones bite her on the arse. she picks on the other 2 occasionally, she's so ratty.
    Age is a undignified exit for some.

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