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    As some of you know, i've had trouble convincing mum to let me take Koda into the public to train him around other dogs. Well since I last posted about that i've been unsuccessful in convincing mum to let me take Koda in public. I actually generally avoid the topic because it always ends in us arguing and getting so frustrated that one of us just leaves.

    Today i got in a bit of an argument with mum again regarding taking Koda into public for training, so i suggested that we put a muzzle on him, just to eliminate her fears. I am perfectly happy to put a muzzle on him if it will let me take him out for training. My question about this is that I'm wondering whether having a muzzle on him would make him feel more insecure and vulnerable to other dogs? Of course, i'd use positive reinforcement to make the muzzle a great thing to him, and i'd probably get a wire one that still lets him pant and open his mouth. He's used to wearing a halti, so its not a totally new concept to him, but i'm still concerned that he'd feel insecure. He's never bitten a dog before, but there is a first for everything i guess...
    What are your experiences with using a muzzle on a dog? Also what type of muzzle have you found to be the best?
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    I think if there is any concern from the handler, a muzzle is a great idea. Because it removes that nervousness. Dogs pick up on that. If you are more relaxed with him muzzled then he will be more relaxed as well.

    I used to muzzle my old afghan years ago as a deterrent to people approaching him all the time. He was safe, completely so. But people used to just let their kids run up and throw themselves at him "Oh look at the pretty fluffy dog!!". He used to really tire of it. People left him alone when he was muzzled and he enjoyed that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nattylou View Post
    I think if there is any concern from the handler, a muzzle is a great idea. Because it removes that nervousness. Dogs pick up on that. If you are more relaxed with him muzzled then he will be more relaxed as well.

    I used to muzzle my old afghan years ago as a deterrent to people approaching him all the time. He was safe, completely so. But people used to just let their kids run up and throw themselves at him "Oh look at the pretty fluffy dog!!". He used to really tire of it. People left him alone when he was muzzled and he enjoyed that.
    Thanks Nattylou
    Having a muzzle on him will definitely give both me and my mum more confidence taking Koda out places. I think i'll go to the shops and pick one up on Wednesday after my exam (ew, got exams for the next few weeks).

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    'maddogdodge' - are you still doing the training with Koda that you showed in the videos a while back ? I thought you both were doing really well !

    Maybe your mum is just concerned presently that you have exams to prepare for - and perhaps you should be concentrating on them and not finding things to do that perhaps could wait a bit of time until you have holidays ?

    Just a thought !

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    Quote Originally Posted by RileyJ View Post
    'maddogdodge' - are you still doing the training with Koda that you showed in the videos a while back ? I thought you both were doing really well !

    Maybe your mum is just concerned presently that you have exams to prepare for - and perhaps you should be concentrating on them and not finding things to do that perhaps could wait a bit of time until you have holidays ?

    Just a thought !
    Nah i can assure you that is not what is going on here
    Because of her fear regarding Koda's reactivity, i've not been allowed to take Koda out of our property for a walk for almost 2 years now
    I am still doing the training in the videos. However that is all done at home, and i need to let Koda meet some dogs that are either the same size or bigger than him in order to continue with the training. The only dogs i know personally are either really small or are massive and not controllable.
    In terms of exams, My mum is totally chilled about that, as am I, my parents are very relaxed about education. They have the view that as long as i'm passing, then everything is fine And seeing as my exams don't count in terms of actually passing VCE, none of us are that fussed because I'm not going to uni so i don't need an ATAR which means that exams aren't important for my future at all. I only did VCE so that i'd have more job/course opportunities.
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    Molly has a bad habit of trying to 'play' with small dogs at the park, the more they yap/yelp and run, the better. She's never actually hurt one but it always sounds bad and little dog owners don't seem to appreciate it

    I recently got her a muzzle to wear when there are small dogs that we don't know at the park (she doesn't chase familiar ones). The muzzle is great, it makes her focus on me so much more, if she starts to head toward a small dog, I call her and she comes straight back... There is no way she would have came back without the muzzle. I think it helps them concentrate on you (maybe in the hope that you'll take it off)

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    I think many people have a negative view of muzzles and think they are somehow mean. Dogs don't think that way. If the muzzle is comfortable they couldn't care less. And if it's associated with positive things like going out for a walk with their owner they love them. Many greyhound people know this all too well. Picking up a muzzle gets the same reaction that most people get when they pick up their dogs' lead - bouncing and excitement - "a walk a walk a walk!!"

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    Muzzles can be a great thing if they help the owner out. I would be putting him on a correction chain or martingale then if he's going to wear a muzzle and just keep distance. 2 years not walked means the dog will easily explode when taken out he's going to overload in a very short time.

    I tell people get a basket muzzle like a Buster Muzzle 33085.jpg

    you can get them from any store that has an account with Shoof, a farm supplier, or most vet suppliers will have them. Very strong and lightweight the dogs have no issue fitting in them, panting, drinking and even getting treats. I start with just feeding the dog out of them until the dogs happy to put it's head in there and wear it around the house. I would also start with your mum just playing with Koda out the front of the house in the muzzle and giving treats before heading out on the streets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekhbet View Post
    Muzzles can be a great thing if they help the owner out. I would be putting him on a correction chain or martingale then if he's going to wear a muzzle and just keep distance. 2 years not walked means the dog will easily explode when taken out he's going to overload in a very short time.

    I tell people get a basket muzzle like a Buster Muzzle 33085.jpg

    you can get them from any store that has an account with Shoof, a farm supplier, or most vet suppliers will have them. Very strong and lightweight the dogs have no issue fitting in them, panting, drinking and even getting treats. I start with just feeding the dog out of them until the dogs happy to put it's head in there and wear it around the house. I would also start with your mum just playing with Koda out the front of the house in the muzzle and giving treats before heading out on the streets.
    Yes, i know he might find it overwhelming to go out somewhere. Not sure though, he's never been a dog that finds walks THAT exciting in the first place, he's just as happy to walk around our 30 acres, its always just as exciting for him. But we'll see.
    That is basically the exact type of muzzle i was hoping to get Our local pet shop has a large range of muzzles there (i bought a small fabric one to use on difficult grooming clients... the dogs that is )
    I'm sure that Koda will adjust well to wearing it, he's quite patient when it comes to things like that

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    I couldn't find a muzzle that i like at my local pet shop, so i went online and ordered one of these muzzles - Baskerville Ultra Muzzle - YouTube
    I really like the design of this muzzle, seems strong, comfortable and the dog can easily eat, drink and pant
    Hopefully it will arrive in the mail tomorrow or tuesday!

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