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    Quote Originally Posted by bernie View Post
    Brian rocks this morning. He's now dead to the world, too much thinking is exhausting. So we'll call that a down stay too lol
    Now - do you have a video or photos of this for your dog trainer - tomorrow ? You know - as he is dead to the world - you being seen to be giving the command of down stay as you are walking away from Brian !
    I don't know about anyone else - but I am impressed ! smiley-eatdrink004.gif

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    Thanks for being impressed with his "drop" "stay", what can i say, you either have it, or ya dont as a trainer LMAO.

    ok, today is D day. 1st day of training. Ive never taken an idiot to training before, im very excited. Ive been blessed with my dogs i realise. Blessed.
    But now im not. So here's some cheatin, we got up to at dawn today, in prep for..... Obedience Class 1.
    I took Brian to the oval he's gonna be training on today. We walked/i got dragged to every new sodding smell there was. (cheat 1. Know the terrain)
    Glad this was all 'off camera'.
    And because he did that, i made him swim too long. (cheat 2. knacker your dog first) though its an edgy business with brian, he can suffer dreadful narcolepsy if too tired. So we did it early, to have rest and be nice at 1pm, fingers crossed.
    I havent fed him this morning (cheat 3. keep im keen!) or he'll ignore my nifty climbers chalk bag filled with: bbq sausages!, cheat 4. High value treat)
    I have squeeky pig. But he's not interested in a squeeky pig, but the flyer says he has to have a toy?

    And we check in on the trick of Call his name 'Brian'/he looks at me/YES/treat.
    all other dogs out the way, he's on sun lounger cleaning himself post walk/swim. I call Brian, he ignores me.
    I go back inside, put food pouch on, come back out. (its empty, but he doesnt know that)
    I call again, Brian, and he looks, i say "yes" and treat.
    x 4
    on 5th go, he lets out an exasperated sigh, and plonks his head down, and is snoring now.
    Clearly still stuck in that down stay i put him in earlier lol

    That'll be him now, out for the count till i wake him for training.
    Literally, asleep till then, ill lay money on it.

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    At least you don't have the destructo bored dog worries that some of the rest of us have.


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    Brian has been a good boy at his first class.
    We got there, 15 mins early to walk him around other dogs, as i didn't really know what he was like with the class of dogs scenario. Thankfully, its not an indoor class.
    No barking, no lunging at others, very wanting to play with the labs. As did the instructor. So whatever the labs had, it was contagious, and 15 minutes in, i wouldnt of minded a go myself lol

    Our intstructor kept a very wide birth of brian. Handled everyone else's dog cept mine
    said hello to him from a distance though.
    So he was bored shitless, as i knew he would be. I was bored too. But you get that, a lot of standing around listening to instructions to practice during the week.
    we did sit, look, come as commands. I looked longingly at the agility class. And refocussed on sit still and listen for an hour virtually.

    But more importantly, we did mix with other dogs WITH good manners.
    Greet strange dogs, all ages/sizes/sexes/colours. And he did fabulously, no aggression! im really pleased he doesnt have this nasty side, as its a chore to train out.
    the sits were a little random.
    he'd be sat, then decide to come up for a kiss
    http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/...D/IMG_4572.jpg

    Or sat too far in front lol But doing a grand effort!
    http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/...D/IMG_4547.jpg

    We get there eventually
    http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/...D/IMG_4573.jpg

    This is the interest level in food reward under distraction, type of food carefully picked by Brian pre leaving in preference to cheese or chicken, was sausages.
    http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/...D/IMG_4532.jpg

    So we ditch food, and go for a head rub, his fave
    http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/...D/IMG_4553.jpg

    I had him for a 4 second sit stay, till something interesting happens over there....
    http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/...D/IMG_4534.jpg

    And at the 50 minute in mark, he decided enough's enough thanks and votes with his feet.
    http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/...D/IMG_4538.jpg

    All in all, its been an exhausting half day for Brian. Time for some more of his down stay training
    http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/...13/Set2149.jpg

    Slept for afternoon, then came out for romp in the dry river bed with his bro. Much more fun!
    http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/...D/IMG_4499.jpg



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    AH, he's just gorgeous. I love your Brian stories

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhru View Post
    AH, he's just gorgeous.
    Agreed
    Quote Originally Posted by dhru View Post
    I love your Brian stories
    Me too !!

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    Bernie

    You had a drool towel - I don't know what your instructor's problem is. I'd be tempted to get all the others to gang up on the instructor... "it's Brian's turn now". But then again - for some instructors - I won't let them touch my dog let alone have the lead.

    Sit pretty and Greedy pig? It took me quite a long time to get Frosty to build enough core muscles to do a sit pretty (beg pose). Greedy pig she had from day one (stand up on back legs and grab the treat hand with front claws, steal treat directly).

    Notice what grabs his attention "over there" or anywhere and use that as reward or training opportunity "look at that" good boy...

    So things to do when the instructor is not looking...

    Reinforcement zone heel work (ie step forwards, release, treat when dog arrives in RZ), build up to stepping in any direction (except if you go towards the dog you need to cue an "out sideways" move or you will step on him).

    So Frosty and I can do backwards circles, sideways both ways, forwards, backwards, about turns both directions - doesn't take up much room...

    She also loves a drop stay cos she learned to do those in front of dinner, so she drops and she dreams of dinner and her tail wags and she looks at me to see if dinner (or a small part of it) will magically appear from time to time...

    More standing around waiting tricks
    nose touches (though I'm not sure I'd want to do that with a DDB slobber dog)
    sit drop sit stand sit... (opportunity for more rewards)...
    shaping a chin tap to ground from drop position. Reward head lowering with treat low to ground in position you want dog's head.

    Tail worky (one of Frosty's first tricks), reward wagging tail (x5), then cue wagging tail, reward...

    Does he play? Any kind of play move. Or the head rub... with my dog it's run and tug games.

    Shake hands, other hand...

    Some I haven't started yet - lift one paw off ground, front paws, then back paws..., stretches (no idea how to get these but rewarding in position or so the dog goes more into position is part of it).

    Trouble is, the dog most in trouble is often the one that gets the instructor's attention. But that can be a good thing for you. You can rate how well you're doing by how much you get neglected for more needy cases. it might help if you have some specific questions for the instructor eg "how do I get..."

    I have been known to cue "singing" which will eventually get the instructor's attention - mostly because when they look up the whole class is watching you and your dog be insanely cute.

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    We had a lovely off leash dog walk. We met nicely, a man with two offleash 10yrs old boys. A woman with 2 offleash bc's < not sure they even saw Brain lol, but he saw them, and just watched. Stood absolutely still, but not 'stiff' and watched. As the woman kept getting closer before i did. And as soon as he heard my voice, he wagged his tail at her and did a happy dance. She fell for it, and got slobbered. That'll learn her. I shared the towel. apologised.

    with teach a few things at once in mind. I have captured and marked him plonking his head down. So now does this on cue, for a head rub reward.
    I have yet to move this behaviour to another location, or position. Ive captured a natural behaviour and can reproduce it on cue. in that same setting. God its slow here.....

    Ive had to "step away from the food issue". I have basically, a little shit. That really is not up for eating, whilst out. He's too hyped up and stupid. He refuses most food items. He never begs for food, but just sits quietly creating a puddle of goo on the floor. Disgusting.
    We now have an invisable door, he's not allowed over the threshold of our room, if we are eating, this moves the puddle to where i cannot see it, so i dont wretch whilst eating.

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    Brian's had so many firsts, and glided through them all.
    We took him to the beach, not a nice day, so it was never gonna be packed.
    My fears: run off, fight another dog, get folks very wet that arent his folks.

    He was fine. He had a great time chasing, being chased, biting waves, and best of all....

    My husband tried to walk all 3, and was unable, totally unable. He's been calling me a wuss!

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    There was Marley and Me now the world is ready for The Life Of Brian , damn they have already used that title! I read some of your posts to my husband and he is still chuckling.
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