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    Angry A ll A bout Dog Tr aining

    Hello Guys,
    I am new to this forum and looking for a better dog obedience trainer for my GSD that I can trust leaving my dog with them.
    I actually live in Sydney, I have tried the "Ba rk bust er" coming to my please but its hopeless with this franchise, I got the wrong trainer I guess.
    There is one I heard, "Gu ard Do g Trai ning Ce ntre", unfortunately the review is not very good.

    There is another one in Leppington called "Al l Ab out D og Trai ning". I never heard about this family operated company. I wonder if any of you guys knows this company...

    Thanks,
    Kiarmu
    Last edited by Hyacinth; 08-18-2013 at 08:45 PM.

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    What is it you want your dog to do?

    I don't think leaving your dog with someone to train is a good idea as you need to learn as well as the dog.

    There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face.

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    If I needed a dog trainer or a recommendation for Sydney I would ask Steve Courtney at k9pro.com.au to recommend someone. I met him when he came over to Adelaide for a seminar, and he will use whatever methods you're comfortable with.

    I think he and his team run training classes also and he himself has Malinois dogs - Belgian Shepherds who are like GSD only more intense. So I'm sure he can help or would know someone who could

    This is his guide for choosing a dog trainer.
    How to Choose a Dog Trainer | Steve Courtney Dog Training

    Ps having a browse through the website I would be concerned.

    Two things stick out to me.

    Letting a dog attempt an agility obstacle like the scramble - with a choke chain on - can lead to the death of the dog. It's very unsafe and it's against all the rules in all formal agility sports. The pictures in the agility part of the website - show dogs on the scramble on lead (bad) on choke chain (dangerous).

    And when my dog does the drop-stay - she is looking at me and her tail is wagging. She is not trying to disappear into the ground and she is not avoiding my gaze.

    And I second what Jadielee87 writes - you need to be present with your dog for training - it's more important to train you to train your dog, than to train your dog without you.
    Last edited by Hyacinth; 08-18-2013 at 08:43 PM.

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    Go straight to Pet Resorts Australia Pet Resorts Australia

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    I already tried Barkbuster who came to my place twice, but I was still the one doing all the training. Their method like water gun and chain pillow is not very effective. That's why I'm thinking of somebody that can train my dog better than me.

    Thanks anyway.

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    Thanks for all the inputs guys...
    Cheers

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    Kiarmu

    I feel the same about ba rk bus ters as you. They came to help my neighbour - I don't know why he didn't ask me but he didn't. So they asked him to do a bunch of things that made him feel like a complete idiot. Methods he was not at all comfortable doing. And the methods were quite aversive (based on doing things the dog didn't like). Like saying "bah" in a growly tone, and chucking a chain and the squirty bottle. Because he didn't like using the methods - he stopped using the methods. And now his dog gets yelled at and occasionally hit, because he thinks it is untrainable.

    I used the squirty bottle - not as an aversive but as a way to get my dog's attention - cos she likes squirty bottles and water and gets quite excited...

    What you need is someone who can train you better than bark busters can. That's not very hard, don't sell yourself short.

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    Kiarmu can you find someone to show you how to use a clicker? I had a Dog Communicator come out to the home for a three hour session. He is brilliant but I am in WA so no good to you. Positive reinforcement is the way to go, I carry a treat pouch and wear the clicker when I am training.
    Brian goes to dog club but I also do a session every single day where he goes through a series of basic commands. He loves it, I couldn't imagine sending him away to be trained, I need the lessons as much as he does.

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    I totally agree with Hyacinth that the main problem isn't that you are bad at training your dog, but that BB trainers often don't have the skills to teach anyone anything and use a random mix of 'tricks'.

    I used them once to help with a specific behavioural issue. They were terrible. It was only after I joined this forum that I realised that they were trying to implement some sort of NILF routine. But in a very disjointed way and without even bothering to explain the basics or the intended goal to me. Needless to say, I might as well have thrown my money in the bin.

    I don't really have an opinion on those in-house training places. But I do know that the only way you are going to get a good result is if you can find someone who can help you feel more confident about continuing the training and providing leadership to your dog.

    Which reminds me of this youtube training videos. First clicker training vids I watched and how cute is that gsd? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmhG...e_gdata_player

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    yep, that's one heck of cute GSD.
    put a smile on my face. Its a game bernie loves to play too.
    He's been "jumping into a drop" ever since. He'd never win a obedience title. His angles are all wrong, i dont care about that stuff anymore. But that bounce into drop, warms the cockles of my heart, time after time

    I had no idea about Bark Busters. I presumed it was some sort of citronella collar brand. Having someone else train my dog. Is like having someone else eat my chocolate. But I can see the attraction, especially on mornings like ive had with mine.
    Dear Bark Busters, please take Brian and bring him back 'cured' in 4 weeks.
    What's the aussie equivalent of that type of service? do we have one?

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