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    Regrading the above quote that Hyacinth commented on (can't quote on my phone for some reason) regarding rescues and breeders, I disagree with the quote.

    Dogman, as with any industry, you eat the good and the bad. There are some rescues that are great and others not so great. I work with a rescue group that offer a 4 week trial period, during which time they will send out a trainer (most of the time its me) to work with the new owner (should they request it) on any problems they have, at no expense, and they/we offer continued support regarding behaviour and health concerns they may have. Our group is always happy to help the owners at any time in the dogs life and will take it back if they are unable to care for it in the future.

    You just need to do your research to find the good ones. Reputable Breeders are generally the same with regard to helping and/or taking the dog back in the future because they want to ensure their dogs are safe forever.

    I'm glad you're doing well with your pup.

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    Dogman, have you tried contacting the GSD training group who meet 2 nights a week at Erskine Park (the Dogs NSW grounds)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grevillea47 View Post
    Dogman, have you tried contacting the GSD training group who meet 2 nights a week at Erskine Park (the Dogs NSW grounds)?
    Both my GSDs Tara and Rex did their training at the Erskine park and Cumberland branches of the GSDL and I was a member for 6 yrs, so I thought I knew a little about GSDs but when I got Chloe I soon realized I knew not much at all.

    I stand by what I said about "the dog is now your problem" because I have experienced this myself, and to say "if you can't handle her bring her back" hows that helping the new owner or the dog and I'm not the only person that this has been said too either.
    Years ago obedience training was fun and you would have a break with a cup of tea and a chat with people, but now it's like boot camp and it's no fun at all... so it's no wonder Chloe doesn't like it. : sad:
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    Dogman

    Maybe send an email to Steve at K9pro.com.au (he's Hawkesbury area) and ask him to recommend some dog training clubs or group classes closer to where you are. You need to find the person who will teach you how to handle her. Paul McGreevy at uni NSW - may also be able to help with recommendations. Professor Paul McGreevy - The University of Sydney He's into reward based training and keeping it fun for you and the dog.

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    Sadly most obedience clubs are run by well meaning volunteers with little training in how to teach dog obedience. A good trainer can handle any dog...regardless of age, breed or temperament. I hope you can find a good group for your lovely dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetaDogs View Post
    Sadly most obedience clubs are run by well meaning volunteers with little training in how to teach dog obedience. A good trainer can handle any dog...regardless of age, breed or temperament. I hope you can find a good group for your lovely dog.
    Yes you're right...well meaning but with little or no knowledge of how to handle rescue or problem dogs. Anyway my girl is now out of the monster puppy stage and is in the terrible teens stage...lucky me.

    She hasn't been to training for the last month as I have been spending more time taking her for many walks...drives...playing with her etc and this has made a big difference. She is now 13 mths old and will in the next few mths start to mature so she should improve...she goes back to training soon but only for socialization...as I can't do this at home.
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    Dogman, I am sorry to hear you have had such a negative experience with rescue.

    Our rescue group uses a mob called "All About Dog Training" when they need to have a dog assessed or some training done. When they are not doing this marvellous work with rescue they do a lot of security and Shutzhund training so I imagine they would have quite a lot of experience with GSD's and I know they have a lot of experience with "problem" rescues.

    Best of luck.

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    I don't think I could respect the methods of a group that promotes Cesar Milan. Eek.

    I'm sure many people would not try "alpha rolling" their dog and consequently get bitten if it wasn't for him.

    Sophia Yin: Experts Say Dominance-Based Dog Training Techniques Made Popular by Television Shows Can Contribute to Dog Bites

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    Yes a lot of obedience classes are run by volunteers that give up their own time when they could be training their own dogs or spending time doing other things. I know because I was one. Sometimes we had 60 people turn up that had to be sorted between 3 instructors. I think for the most part we managed pretty well but we were not behaviourists. I did it 2 nights a week to help the club out and sometimes 3 if they were desperate as we had different levels of classes available. It was time consuming considering I trial my own dogs and their training definitely sufered because of it. In fact all the instructors trialed their own dogs in obedience and agility so we wernt complete nitwits about training dogs.

    Generally we sorted the dogs in to size and age as best we could and started off with the basics and over the course of 8 weeks increased the challenges. People with dogs that they were trying to socialise we were happy for them to go at their own pace and distance in the class, making sure that everyone was safe. Any dog with problems that were a serious risk to the safety of the class were referred on to an appropriate trainer/ behaviourist.

    The rescue that I recently got a pup from also has a wonderful support service and a very good trainer. They also go at great lengths to rehome dogs with any issues with people who have experience or are willing work with the trainer.

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