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    LMW if the halti is giving temporary help with pulling but you would like to gradually change to a flat collar you could try walking her on both the flat collar and the halti.

    You can have two leads. Just hold the halti one loose and walk her on the flat collar lead, even using some of the ideas above to help her understand how to walk nicely on her flat collar. If she starts to pull or you don't feel you have control you can use the halti lead for a short time. If she settles and stops pulling again, loosen the halti lead and walk her on her flat collar again.

    I do this with my girl who still pulls sometimes. I have an Infin8 head collar from Blackdog for her. The beauty of this one is that the strap that goes around their face can be unclipped if they are walking well, and the base part of the collar works like a normal martingale collar. It's a great way to wean them off the headcollar.

    I do find with her that her pulling is normally only excitement based - she's not being naughty. If she's in a pulling mood she normally eases off once she settles into her walk.

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    Start at the very beginning
    a. sit
    b. drop
    Before I even set off we would go to a point on the driveway and just sit,
    then drop and hold that drop for up to 5 minutes.
    When the dog was relaxed and quiet then we would start the walk.
    Any pulling we just stopped.
    It may take 100 repetitions but you cannot give up!
    Dont yell/ check or use a sharp voice - soft and quiet
    Quiet = Dog will listen
    Pulling equals = no walking.
    Keep the leash loose - jog a bit here & there if need be.
    If dog is walking nicely - then say "walking nicely good girl"
    If dog is pulling - then say "ah ah no pulling"
    Your tone of voice is important as the dog wants approval
    Time of day can help also - I always found Snoopy more excitable
    in the early morning. He is GSPx wanting to nick off & chase ducks.
    Do you have a yard at home.
    Start in the yard - short sessions only.
    I don't regard walking as exercise - it is an outing and should be fun for both of you.
    Exercise is running around, chase, hide and seek, fetch.
    Any problems, go back to the start with basic obedience.
    (no expert here just had to learn the hard way cos Snoopy was a horrible puppy)

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    When I tried one on Maggie at 6 months she splayed herself on the ground and went limp. Ten minutes and no change. The girl in the shop was amazed as she hadn't seen it before.As soon as I took it off she sat up happily. i decided they weren't for us and we have managed. As she has become less excitable and I have used the clicker + treat to reinforce what I want and also reversing direction when she pulled we have curbed it and it is now fine.
    I can't see why one size fits all in training for dogs any more than it does for people. As teacher I modify how i present things for different students and a good trainer should have more than one strategy. After all many people trained their dogs to walk well on a lead for a loooong time prior to haltis

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    The dog I tried a halti on went into complete shut down mode, her eyes glazed over and she was like a robot or would also go limp on the ground. As soon as I took it off she would go crazy. I decided after a while that it wasnt for me.

    What worked in the end with her was some intensive clicker training using the flat collar. She ended up being the heeling dog I ever had. I just started from scratch and rewarded heavily the position I wanted her in at my side, step by step. First in a situation where there were no distractions and slowly upped the distraction level.

    Walking close to a fence or barrier of some kind also helped keep her in position in the early days.
    Last edited by Kalacreek; 02-23-2013 at 12:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalacreek View Post
    The dog I tried a halti on went into complete shut down mode, her eyes glazed over and she was like a robot or would also go limp on the ground. As soon as I took it off she would go crazy. I decided after a while that it wasnt for me.

    What worked in the end with her was some intensive clicker training using the flat collar. She ended up being the heeling dog I ever had. I just started from scratch and rewarded heavily the position I wanted her in at my side, step by step. First in a situation where there were no distractions and slowly upped the distraction level.

    Walking close to a fence or barrier of some kind also helped keep her in position in the early days.

    Hello again everyone

    Many thanks to everyone who was kind enough to reply and I apologise for not responding sooner, been a hectic few days with work.

    I think Kalacreek has summed it all up best for my situation. Tonight I took our lab for a walk and she just lay down at the front door, head bowed and looking sad as can be. Second time today that she's done this. So I took the plunge and took the Halti off and off she went, had a great walk and hardly pulled at all. I suspect I'll get in trouble at obedience training this week but so be it - all dogs aren't the same and she should be enjoying her walks and so should I - so I'm off to try clikcer training now and fingers crossed we get a better outcome. If she was playing games with me then 10/10 for her strategy because it worked - but honestly she looked SO sad and she needs far more walks than she's been getting recently.

    Again, thanks to everyone who responded - very much appreciated.

    Mark

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