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    I came to the conclusion that our cue "down" for lying down is broken because other people keep using it for getting Banjo off their lap (she still thinks she's a chihuahua) or prevent her from jumping up.

    So what do you use? And what hand signal, if any? Ours is too similar to the sit signal too...

    I've always wanted to use some total nonsensical cue for a common command. Like "chips" or "beer" for recall. But I never followed through. All our cues are kinda logical so far. Maybe it's time to change this!

    Oh I do have a cute one for telling Banjo to get in the back of the car if she takes up her usual spot behind the wheel when I leave her to duck into the shops. I ask her "Are you driving, Banjo?" when I open the driver's door and she will promptly hop in the back. lol

    And we also have our "Goodmorning Banjo" which makes her immediately flop down in the crook of my arm. It works any time of the day but I do try to reserve it for that morning cuddle.
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    I mostly use the word "drop" and then dependng where the evil hound is relative to me I use
    when she's heeling pos - a downward wave swipe with my hand or finger - from the opposite side to where she's heeling. Usally in combination with the word.

    When she's in front of me roughly - I use a sort of crossed wrists then push down so like an X opening downwards - NFI why I use that - maybe it's easier to see from a distance than a two handed palm down push down gesture. She confuses it with my signal for come here when it's supposed to be drop where you are. And then there is the bow signal - which i use when she only sat. A bit like a head butt when there's no head there to butt or a japanse gentleman's bow. Must look very funny.

    If you're planning to compete in obedience - you have to have it reduced to one signal for drop over there (aka drop on recall) and one signal for drop heeling. But if it's fun family dog manners training - whatever works. It would be cute tho - if the down word when dog is jumping on people got a nice solid and fast drop. I use "off" for get off me or the couch. And a directional hand wave/point as in go that way (off the couch). And "Up" to get up on it.

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    I use down as well...but may have to look into changing because on training nights I will sometimes mistakenly use the word drop like everyone around me and Maxi has no idea what I'm asking him to do.

    i feel so bad on these occasions I've done this and because i know that I have confused him... We use up and off for the couch hand pats and finger point signals.
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    I use drop. Years ago I used to use down as well and got myself into the habit of saying "off" if I was jumped on, but the training kennels require "drop" so now I use it for my dogs as well.

    I also used to use "OK" as the release command, but at the kennels have learned to say "free"; I guess people throw out "ok" a lot in general conversation.

    My hand signal is a flat hand (right), palm to dog and it goes from my hip to my left ankle, shortens as the dog gets the general idea. I teach drop with dog on my left in a sitting position. If the dog doesn't like to drop I either go onto slippery floors, or use the rocking/collapse method from a stand position.

    As the dog progresses to CDX work and needs to do a drop from a distance another drop command is introduced, but the other is still used in heeling work. The distance drop I use a lot when sending a dog to it's mat.

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    Mac, I also use ok when releasing Maxi from a wait when getting out of the car and to eat his meals combined with a hand signal pointing. Should I try and change this to free? or are these incidences not the place to use free?


    Still trying to get my head around the various command words and when to use still mixup the stay and wait on occasions. We are still only working to the end of the lead.


    But I like the logic of the word free instead of okay, and using drop instead of down due to the obvious signs of confusion from Maxi when I used it instead of down in class and at home training.


    On a good note the trainer has noticed a huge improvement in Maxi and I, as we are put through our paces with the group. There is very limited burst of jumping up to get to flying insects, or nose to ground looking for yummy things to eat and not as much pulling when walking. Walking at heel still needs lots of work but there has been improvement
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    Yeah, we use 'off' for not jumping or getting off the bed and such. And drop was supposed to be used to make her drop an object from her mouth. But we rarely have a need for that.

    For release I use 'off you go'. Bit of a mouthful and it's strength lies mainly in the intonation used.

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    I say "lie down" and point at the floor, and I say "get off" when I want a dog to put all 4 paws on the ground.

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    It really is up to you what commands you want to use. And of course how much those commands are ingrained in the dog as to whether you want to mess with things and change.

    Training 3 or 4 + dogs in a day at work where I have to use commands such as drop and free I had to change those for my dogs. If I wasn't working using them my dogs would of stayed on down and OK.

    How I train the free and OK commands, depending on which one you like it all means the same thing, the dog is now free to do what it wants, so free to eat, free to run, free to make it own choice.

    Free/OK is my favourite command and I teach it in the first lesson, whether it be a tiny puppy or a naughty 2yo. Because a dog can only hold a command for a certain time before it gets distracted. Or because it's never given a "release command" it waits for your body signal as to when you are no longer paying attention.

    You sound a lot like many people at the obedience club where I volunteer, they often copy what I'm saying( or other instructors)who are running the class. So many times I will say to a class, "release your dogs" and people will say "release" to the dog when I know they've been teaching them using the word "free". I find these people are normally those just starting with doing formal training, with an intelligent dog with lots of energy that requires a lot of their attention. I may see them a few rotations later (instructor rotations at my club are 6weeks) and they are normally back on track, if not by the end of my 6 weeks with them.
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    All my "formal" commands are one word commands.

    My two or three word commands have come about thru cues, patterns etc.

    "right then" means it's time for bed.

    "off you go" means I've had enough of patting you and you should leave now.

    "get on your mat" used to just be mat, but everyone started to throw out the "get on your" part so it now must be included.

    When teaching command or changing commands you put the new word, signal or whatever in front of the old one.

    Bit like "bikkies", which is the call for meal times. Best ever recall word in an emergency situation, because twice a day, every day, I "pay" them with a big meal.

    A person laughed at me the other day in the show ring because one of my bitches has a habit of holding up her left leg while being baited, I started to train her using "foot" and reward her when the foot went down, but in the ring I'll be frantically whispering "foot, foot, foot" to her before the judge turns his/her attention to us. So now "foot, foot, foot" whispered to her is the command with a slightly frantic edge to my voice - ooops.

    My hand signals are also quite extended while the dog is learning, I give them every opportunity not to miss something so I can reward them. As they get better I shorten and neaten my hand signals. My feet also mean a lot to the dog, a toe in or a toe out signals to the dog a change in direction, you don't think they notice it but as they get better they do.

    One of my old Kelpies I used to take to class a lot. She was my demo dog. Bad mistake she started to take her cues from my instructions to the class not from the command to her.

    I also start every instruction to the group with "Class" - "Class - holt", "Class - sit your dog", Class - stand your dog" etc. Gives everyone a heads up that an instruction is coming. This particular bitch would turn and look up at me at the word "class", because she knew something was coming. Miss my Jodie, best dog ever.
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    Drop - for belly on floor
    Down - for 'get your front paws off me' !!
    Up - for getting up on chair or lounge (Misha is low to the ground and I save my old bones by having her on a chair to attach lead etc!)
    Off - for getting off chair or lounge
    Give - for releasing an object (still working on this one )
    Free - for 'do your own thing now' etc

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