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    Hi All,

    Hoping you guys can help shed some light on our situation.

    Hazel just reached 7 months old, generally she's a very good puppy, but the last 2 or 3 days she has been a little more destructive, which is very unlike her.

    First of all it seems like she has totally forgot where she is meant to do her business when shes inside the house when we are at home, she would just poo and pee any where. Usually she have one designated area which is the laundry room where she would do her business if she have to do it inside the house. But the funny thing is if we are at work she manages to hold her business till we get home and let her out into the backyard.

    Secondly in the last week or so she has been in a very chewy mood, she would chew and destroy some of her toys, and a few days ago we found that when we got home she has chew through some cables and today when we got home we found that she chewed one of the blinds. Am I right to assume she has started her second stage of adult teething?

    Not too sure if the two issue above are related, but do dogs loose their toilet training skills when they are in the teething stage?

    Any tips or advice on this would be greatly appreciated.

    Regards,
    Jaron & Nicole

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    I don't believe that it is your puppy teething that would make her pee and poo everywhere. But that probably is why she is in destruction mode. Perhaps there is something wrong with her teeth. Check her teeth just in case.

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    Hazel might be starting to go into the "teenage" stage... normally they become a right pain in the ass! lol

    I would suggest starting toilet training from the beginning... back to basics and see if that helps! Maybe buy some extra chewy toys and bones as well to help with the chewing issues!

    There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face.

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    Hi Jaron and Nicole

    You are not alone. You might like to read through this thread and see if anything applies to you or helps.

    http://www.dogforum.com.au/dog-train...ong-sorry.html

    When you get home - do you make sure your dog goes to the toilet outside before you settle into the evening routine?

    Have you changed anything around the house or with the routine etc?

    What do you do when the dog goes in the wrong place?

    What do you do when she goes in the right place?

    What does your dog do to let you know when she needs to go out? Are you making sure she has plenty of opportunity to do what she needs outside?

    Is the pee-poop area inside - anywhere near her inside home alone bed? Cos she's not going to want to go there if she can help it. So you have to make sure she goes outside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    Hi Jaron and Nicole

    You are not alone. You might like to read through this thread and see if anything applies to you or helps.

    http://www.dogforum.com.au/dog-train...ong-sorry.html

    When you get home - do you make sure your dog goes to the toilet outside before you settle into the evening routine?

    Have you changed anything around the house or with the routine etc?

    What do you do when the dog goes in the wrong place?

    What do you do when she goes in the right place?

    What does your dog do to let you know when she needs to go out? Are you making sure she has plenty of opportunity to do what she needs outside?

    Is the pee-poop area inside - anywhere near her inside home alone bed? Cos she's not going to want to go there if she can help it. So you have to make sure she goes outside.
    When we get home we would take Hazel outside right away and we will wait until she is done.

    We haven't changed anything around the house and same goes for the routine. Only difference is that she just doesn't want to go to her designated indoor toilet area anymore.

    When she does go to the wrong area, all we do is say "No Hazel" or Uh Ah than clean it up.

    Well when we take her outside and she does her business we say good girl and give her a rub/pat.

    Since the first day we got her, her night sleeping area is the laundry room, but we always ensure that her poo and pee are cleaned right away when she does her do business in there. However since this issue occurred we have changed her sleeping area to rumpus room.

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    we have changed her sleeping area to rumpus room
    Hopefully this will help ie having a clear toileting area inside that is well away from her sleeping area.

    When you clean up - what do you use? Any bleach based products may encourage the dog to go on that spot again - cos it's similar to the pee mark smell to a dog. Try using vinegar to wipe down the area after you've got the mess out. You can dilute the vinegar 1 cup vinegar with 750ml water (eg top up a 1 litre spray bottle) and a 1/2 teaspoon of lavendar oil in with that. (Shannon Lush recipe). Some bicarb soda first can also help.

    Does she really need to toilet inside at all any more? If you do need her to go there, you may have to supervise her going inside on the right spot and praising that too. Ie keep her on lead - when you first get home and stand around being boring where you want her to go until she goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    Hopefully this will help ie having a clear toileting area inside that is well away from her sleeping area.

    When you clean up - what do you use? Any bleach based products may encourage the dog to go on that spot again - cos it's similar to the pee mark smell to a dog. Try using vinegar to wipe down the area after you've got the mess out. You can dilute the vinegar 1 cup vinegar with 750ml water (eg top up a 1 litre spray bottle) and a 1/2 teaspoon of lavendar oil in with that. (Shannon Lush recipe). Some bicarb soda first can also help.

    Does she really need to toilet inside at all any more? If you do need her to go there, you may have to supervise her going inside on the right spot and praising that too. Ie keep her on lead - when you first get home and stand around being boring where you want her to go until she goes.
    When she does accidentally go inside we normally use a mixture of Pine O Cleen and tile mopping cleaner, we normally have them premix in those spraying bottles.

    And no she doesn't really need to go inside anymore as she has learnt to go outside and have learnt to hold her poo and pee until we get home.

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    Personally I really hate it when a dog has to hold on. I'd hate to do that myself, I'd hate it if my children had to do that.

    Is there any particular reason why your dog can't be left outside when you go out.

    Having to toilet in the same area as it eats and sleeps would be the main reason it has regressed. As a 7 month old their territory needs to expand a bit.

    The chewing is boredom. Remember their mouths are equal to our hands, they need to be kept busy. Destroying toys - I have 6 dogs + 2 rescues at the moment, toys don't last very long at all. Today I was out for 4 hours and the Saluki pup moved one of the outside chairs plus one of the trampoline beds to the back door - just his way of filling in time after all he's just a dog doing what dogs do.

    He'll get his exercise increased and I'll be more stringent on rotating toys and maybe up his bones to help him get over this naughty phase.

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    probably don't want to use pine-o-cleen for cleaning up dog pee - as it contains benzalkonium chloride which is an ammonia related product - which smells like dog pee to a dog. Benzene based chemicals are also associated with cancer, but I'm not sure if that particular one is or not - there is evidence that it aggravates allergies and asthma but there's no info (no study results) about cancer. I don't know about "tile cleaner" but if it contains anything chlorine ammonia or chloride - I'd avoid that one too.

    Vinegar and lavendar oil in water is much safer - as far as not encouraging "do overs" by the dog. And less likely to cause other problems too. And it also does a pretty reasonable job on floor bacteria. Don't use vinegar on marble tiles tho.

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