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    ChoppaChop - have you had a look at the following website: K9 Pro The K9 Professionals; Online Dog Shop

    and particularly this area: K9 Pro customer reviews ?

    OOPS ! Still on learner plates !!!!!!! Have a go now !
    Last edited by RileyJ; 09-29-2012 at 01:59 PM.

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    The links wont work for me Riley ?
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    Just going to quickly add - this is not something I have decided to do lightly. It is not my idea of a 'quick fix' etc....
    The behaviour is worsening and simply becoming ridiculous.I am at the end of the road....all other methods/training have failed and this is a last ditch effort.
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    We made progress with our crazy patient this weekend ... after a couple of hours on and off and comforting him, he was a foot away from the fence of barking dogs and returning to me for reassurance and sitting instead of lunging out WOOT!!! He may be able to be walked again after all

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    Now that is awsome Nek!!

    Trying to upload video from phone as I type ....for the 5th time ggrrr......
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    without asking for help
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    I'm still having problems with mine too - I don't know how much of it is anxiety though. I have trained the dogs with desensitisation and so far the dogs can be left about 2 hours in the day and 40 mins at night before they start to bark alot. I only have one dog out of the four that is a real problem. She is kind of demanding (keeps persisting with pawing ect even though I ignore her) and can stop barking when I say "sshh.
    I have tried videoing her when I am out and she just stands there barking in the same repetitive pattern over and over. She is the most dominant out of the bunch and very food aggressive. I go out too long at a time to crate her.

    Anxiety wraps have helped - but in saying the barking has generally reduced from constant to about 15 -20 mins per hour at night - which is 2-3 times over the limit allowed by the council, and usually it is under 6 mins/ hr on average in the day.

    In an ideal world I would just put her in another room with a giant bone but then she would be upset about being separated from the others. Solutions which seem to have helped include keeping her inside with the air con on, covering the windows, dog calming music (especially for Brutus), bones (messy inside though and results in alot of house soiling), walking and anxiety wraps.

    I have tried herbal remedies and DAP sprays which haven't helped much. I know getting the barking down from almost constant to 15-20mins an hour is a big improvement for the dogs, but it's much of a muchness to others around me. I also get frustrated that other family members don't care enough to allow me to get trainers in, send the dogs to daycare etc. They don't see it as a problem and don't want to know about it. It's just been a tough week... I guess everyone who has a dog like this knows what I mean.

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    Megan

    I think your dog is not suffering from separation anxiety but is demanding attention and getting it - eventually.

    I would consider NILIF and TOT training with the naughtiest barking est dog.

    She needs to learn that barking for hours will not get her what she wants. So you need to practive leaving her and returning - before she starts barking, so she can learn what success is like and not going to her if she does start barking. Wait until she stops - initially for half a second but then try to make that quiet time longer.

    If you're trying to desensitise but going back after the dog starts barking - you need to time how long that took and make sure that you set the dog up for success ie four out of five times - go back before she starts barking, and the fifth time (or a random time) push the limit by a very short amount eg add another 5% to the quiet time you have already.

    Personally if there is a kiddy who screams for lollies - I'd much prefer the parents cave in immediately (or before the child starts screaming) than wait 5 to 10 minutes and then cave in. But what I'd really like is they never cave in. So that the child (or dog) does not learn that screaming all day - works.

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    Thank you Hyacinth - I didn't really think it was separation anxiety with Belle since barking seemed to be the only symptom with her - she seems to be a very 'tense' dog and I am working on calming exercises with her also. The frustrating thing is that she does well for a little while - then has a terrible day when I didn't do anything different that I was aware of and then I am back to square one and have to start with practiced departures again. Her and my two boys don't seem to have a great deal of independence so I am slowly moving their beds from my room out into the sitting area in the hopes that a bit of practice going to bed at night will help them in the day. In response to genuine separation anxiety (as is the case with Brutus, sort of) I would try an anxiety wrap prior to medication. Google "the original anxiety wrap" and then search for one on ebay. The only issue with these is that in humid weather you will have to make sure the dog doesn't get too hot.

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    a friend has just had a massive relapse with her BC. We were out in a bit of wild weather, windy, rainy, maybe thunderstormy? And he just freaked. He wanted to get back into the car - any car. Unfortunately her car was still a fair walk. And since then he's been unable to come out to club training cos he's too freaked out anywhere but home.

    I've got no idea how to help with it. Except with him - I think I'd go NILIF and crate training - so the crate would be a safe place for him but my friend thinks crates are cruel. Her dog, my dog and quite a few other dogs I know - disagree. They like them like children like cubby houses.

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    Oh no - I feel sorry for your friend. It's so frustrating when you do alot of work and then something unavoidable happens to ruin it all - like a wave knocking over a sandcastle you spent weeks building! I ordered a cheap vibration collar off ebay (new innotek, cost me $16 - supposed to be vibration triggered so it's only set off by the dog wearing it) and I thought I would test it out on Belle. Of course I will keep up with the practice departures, toys, anxiety wraps etc. It just seems like the anxiety is basically gone but she is carrying on barking for other reasons - like she expects an endless stream of food to be delivered to her, or that mummy and daddy should never go out at night or on weekends, even if they take her and her friends for a long walk first!!!

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