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    At times like this management has to come into it. Is there any possible way to build a run or such on the furtherst point away from the fence line with the cows?

    While your knee is being operated on also seriously try and find someone to take her.

    Distance is the key to any fear or reactive training. They have to be aware but still able to be brought out of it or back to you with a treat or ball or whatever is their "thing".

    I don't like the citronella collars because after a couple of sprays it remains on the dogs coat, kind of defeats the purpose, that's why I recommend either the puff of air or the electric, but not for fear. Fear or aggression problems are not solved by use of aggressive methods. And I use aggressive for want of a better word.

    Would it pay to even move the hidden fence on the side with the cattle to keep her further away? Actually scrap that she barks in the house.

    Have you tried a combination of training and medication?

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    Ive just remembered something. I have read that dogs can have their barks surgically muted. Vocal chords cut. Please dont think im suggesting you do this. But if it were me, IF other methods had not been successful, as a alternative to PTS, i might.

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    debarking...

    I don't think it would help in this situation. The dog still barks and it's not quite as ear splitting but it's like larangitus or a stage whisper - you can still hear it. It would still be annoying if you were in the same house as it. And it doesn't address the cause of the problem.

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    Drag0ncharm, you poor thing ! You really have your hands full at the present.

    Barking can be a habit than can be broken - but with anything it takes time.

    Another suggestion for you - I did a Mr Google search and came up with this: kikopup - YouTube

    I really love watching all her stuff !

    The barking is able to be controlled - so I wouldn't give up hope for the pup just yet ! If you can find someone to look after her for a short period, then that will take the pressure off for the present.

    Good Luck with everything - particularly your knee operation.

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    Hi Drag0ncharm, I had a similar problem with one of my dogs being overly anxious and barking non stop when I wasn't home, which set two of the other slightly anxious ones off! Brutus had crazy separation anxiety - he would bark/ howl/ throw himself at doors whenever I left, and was also reactive/ aggressive towards cars and people leaving our house. I had very limited success with him until I bought him an "Original Anxiety Wrap." It's like the thunder shirt but made of thinner fabric and has two straps at the back which cross over the butt and under each back leg. It's based on acupressure points for anxiety but you have to get the right size, based on chest girth and weight. Now Brutus is more settled and sleeps most of the time when I am away. I still have to work with his reactivity for some things and I am working on counter conditioning by giving him a kong filled with tinned food (unless he can get at food easily and it's really tempting he won't touch anything if he knows I'm leaving). The other two barkers are more settled too now (we still have some relapses occasionally). I think if Gypsy's barking issue is fear based (which it sounds like it is), an anxiety wrap could really help you make some headway. I was at my wits end when I tried it after medication and behavioural modification exercises had limited success. Good luck with Gypsy and I'm sorry about your health issues - I had to get a surgery done when the dogs were being really bad and I was more worried about them than myself!

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    sorry I haven't replied for so long I have had a really bad couple of weeks. I spoke to Gypsy's owner and a holiday just didn't work out as suitable option as she lived nearly 4hrs away, my surgery and many more problems. Instead we decided Gypsy would return permanently. It has been one of the hardest things I have ever done.
    We met half way between our houses for the hand over out the front of the hospital the day of my surgery. I think I cried the entire 2+ hour drive there and afterwards that afernoon when I had my surgery all I could think about was how my, Gyp wasn't mine any more.
    But for all my heartbreak Gypsy has made a complete turn around at her new(old?) home. She has been there a week and her appetite has picked back up, the barking has almost completely stopped and she is just about her old self again. She is playing with her brother and the kids in the house like she never left them. As hard as it was i think I have done the right by her.

    And yes I could have spent the big bucks on stuff that might work but it is pointless as I simply can't give her the time and the attention she needs to over come these fears even with the fancy training aids. And my OH doesn't have the experience needed to help and the complaints on her barking were getting less friendly every day.

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    Drag0ncharm,

    I am really sorry to hear your latest news. I hope that your surgery on your knee was a success.

    I am really pleased that you are happy with the news that your pup is settling in well to her new (past) home!

    Trust yourself very much, that you have done the absolute right thing for this pup - that is really all that is expected and what any decent and sensible loving owner would have done ! There are many owners out there who would not have done what you have done - and - the pup would have been in the pound or in a worse situation!

    Take care.

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    thanks RileyJ you have no idea how much that means to me right now. And I tell myself i have done the right thing but it has been hard knowing it. We do still have my OH rotti X pup but Kronos isn't my dog, he is the boofer in the family and a real guys dog. Gypsy was the 'sit for hours and let me cuddle her' type and was my dog in every sense so understandably I really miss her.
    My surgery went really well considering it was the 2nd lot since i was 16. But it will be a while yet before they know if it worked properly or not

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    DragOnCharm

    Thank you for the update. I'm glad Gypsy has gone back to a home where she's not stressed out all the time. Must be a huge relief.

    And I'm sure the right dog will find you when you're ready.

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    Sounds like what you did was the best thing for Gypsy, good to hear she doing much better!

    There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face.

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