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    Default Dog training in slow motion *yawn*

    I have been the laziest dog trainer on the planet with our pup pohm. In fact, Bernie has trained her all she knows probably. We did some clicker training, but i got bored of that. I find Pohm very dull to train. She's mrs plod. Not a high octane dog at all, by any stretch of the imagination.

    Yesterday, i watched my daughter in law feed the pup. She commanded sit, repeatedly, and the pup sat repeatedly, but as she took so long to mark/reward the correct behaviour, pup would get up again. And so daughter in law was getting cross that pup wouldnt sit. I so wanted to interfere. But who am i to train/talk, when ive done nothing with Pohm myself.

    So yesterday, i started basic training 101 with her and my new climbers bag for speed to treat delivery. God she's so slow! I had roast pork cubes for reward in a food obsessed dog. And she sat, 100% of time. Just how long does it take? ages it seems. She acts like some old lady all the time. Takes ages to get up and down.

    This type of training is killing me. I hate it. So wanted to speed us up a little, or i'll fall into a coma waiting for one of her sunday sits zzzzzzz

    Pohm is great at being ball obsessed, Bernie has taught her that too.
    She's fast, has a great nose. Can find anything bernie takes too long to discover on his hunt, she'll get there first.

    Can people suggest some exercises/activities/training that will speed my dog up?
    She has come/sit/fetch/on your bed/out/gently so far.

    Wont drop (probably knows its a long way down and then would have to get up again- more energy)

    I have access to a lake. Are there any water exercises people know? She loves to swim. And its good for her coat. Id be keen to do some water training, as she's driven at this point. And i need to see drive to perk my interest up. Obviously i can train without it, but i lose interest fast if the dog is slow, dull, walking pace everywhere.

    She's a little on the plump size. And gets serious amounts of exercise daily.

    Rabbits have gone somewhere, so no hunting at moment. Another fast activity of hers, chasing rabbits.

    Strengths/assets for training: food orientated, access to lake, access to other dogs, pup of 12 weeks visits 3 days a week to be babysat by her. Will fetch a ball only. Doesnt like other objects in mouth such as frisbee yet.
    Weaknesses: lazy, sun worshiping rug most of time, food obsessed, top dog around here for anything you can eat, beta dog for anything you can throw.

    I live rurally, no access to dog training classes. Loads of access to bush land though.
    all suggestion welcome.

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    Just to add.
    Its me that needs motivating, not my dog. I want fun exciting training, or i get very bored.

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    Short answer: nfi! lol

    I know I need to proof Banjo's sits and drops. But I can't motivate myself either. Every time I look at kikopup's videos I do get enthusiastic about it though. None of her 4 dogs are slow in the least. They are like puppets on a string when they react to her cues. It's very inspiring. Until I try it with Banjo and she just yawns and flops down on her belly. lol

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    Yeah my maltese is slow to so i havent really bothered, i try to direct her with treats to drop but she just looks at me and then runs away lol
    No one loves you like your dog does.

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    Dexter gets frustrated with me, I'm sure he knows what I'm asking for, he just doesn't want to have to do it so he playfully growls at me a few times until he finally does it, lol. He really doesn't seem to like dropping either so most of the time he'll growl and do a half arsed attempt.

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    That is so frustrating and I empathise with you. I would try using dry cat kibble for when she does a slow sit. But have juicy steak pieces if she does it a split second faster - reward the speed ( even if it is in slow motion) and do not repeat the command umpteen times.

    From a swimming point of view, if she is already a ball freak, teach her to fetch the ball from the water. When you have a solid fetch and recall with the ball you could now try dock diving (google it ) .

    Fly ball is also a good sport you can teach at home. You dont need a fancy release machine as long as she is happy to run over half a dozen low hurdles,pick up the ball and run back over the hurdles.

    When she is hyped up doing these activities, be ready to reward those sits.

    Have fun.
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    Hey nev, dock diving. We do this allready just didnt realise this was a dog sport event and called that. We've been calling it jumping in after a ball. And the sit immediately before the dock diving is the fastest she does. Mummy sit, as opposed to granny sit lol

    The drop is something she's never gotten. In the 5 dogs i have owned, she is the only one that doesnt drop for me. So she never gets rewarded for it. Ive not chunked it down with clicker for her, as i know she knows what i am asking. She's stubborn as!

    The flyball by hurdles. Thinking about her "help me, help me" behaviour stood at back of our ute, waiting for a human to shift her fat butt into the back, well we just drive off slowly lol, she's gets on soon enough. Then stop ute and tether her of course.

    so im going to have to think about what hurdles/obstacles she can start with. And Bernie would need to be hid for this bit, as he's only got to see a agility tunnel and he starts screaming at the top of his lungs like ive cut his leg off with a blunt blade!

    Today we have a reasonably fast paced activity planned. Kill the lawn mower. One of both my dogs favourite games.
    Takes her 30 mins to get the nerve up to touch it, then legs it outta sight, but comes back for more.

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    ok, getting dreaming now:
    i-Flyball > Equipment > Flyball Boxes
    COST: $600

    Mid-Sized Drag Lure Machine - Lure Baby Standard!
    COST: $599

    Bernie LOVES coursing. Pohm's never tried. But i reckon she would love it.

    The flyball machine. er. this is full on neurotransmitter skinners box to me. Id be really reinforcing the ball obsession in Bernie.
    Not sure we need to build that trait any higher to be honest. At peak drive, he's uncontrollable still for me. And i have to work to keep him within workable drive level now. I have a love/hate relationship with how addicted i have gotten bernie to working for his ball. Im not sure its entirely healthy. So im hesitant for fly ball. With good reason? Im not entirely sure what ive done to my GSD. Maybe not re creating that in Pohm is the way to go.

    So, has anyone here, got any other 'outside the box' speed pohm up ideas. Fun stuff to train. She's getting fat. And a potential fatty myself, i cant bring myself to cut her food (nor mine) down. A increase in calorie output, wont do either of us any harm. Its only 3 months to sunshine n shorts. Time to work now lol

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    I do not want to raise alarm bells or suggest anything is wrong however if she is reluctant to drop or jump into cars etc have you had her checked to make sure she is in good health regarding hips etc.?

    If she is in good health and you are looking at different exercise for her have you tried lure coursing. We take our dogs to days put on by the Afghan Club but my s/son also ties and rope and shopping bag to the back of the ride on mower or better yet the quad bike.

    I've had some success with large breeds by practising drops with their rears against a wall.

    Reward only improvements. It's something we all know but often don't really do. I'd use her favourite ball as her reward rather than food. If she's obsessed this should speed things along.

    My ball obsessed whippet loves flyball, but hates all the noisy BC's that are there and shuts down after a while. but Pohm would be used to Bernie so would probably thrive.

    I love ball obsessed dogs, my favourite to train. I've introduced the Kong frisbee which is undestructable rubber, doesn't hurt there mouth and I can throw it a lot further.

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    get them to try jumping over things
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