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    Default Help for a friend?

    Hi everyone,

    I have a friend who has an older dog, and apparently they are having some trouble with her, She pretty much got dumped on them.. At first the owners wanted them to baby sit the dog and then moved away and said nah shes your problem now. Which is quite unfair.

    ANYWAY,

    First question, can dogs get dementia?
    'Tess' seems to forget that there are other dogs in the house and sometimes she can be a doll with them and others she will go completely off her tree. Like tonight she told me that tess was cornering her dog and was getting to bite her and stuff, they throw a blanket over her to catch her but tess missed the blanket and my friend went to grab her dog and tess bit her instead. Apparently they have tried to distraction (treat, loud sudden noise, stomp) etc. It works for barking but doesn't work when tess is trying to fight her other dogs...

    She wants to know how she can fix this kinda thing?
    She has a quiet place, and she wants to crate train her but not as punishment, i'm not sure what she can really do please help us out!
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    Bump someone please help.
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    There is no quick fix with this sort of thing....maybe they need to ask someone to see this dog. I cannot imagine how panicked a dog would feel if someone threw over a blanket and grab.i would bite too.

    If very elderly the dog could have dementia, confusion, deafness or hearing problems. It could be other things....

    Now for the interim ........Tell them to put an open ended lead on the dog whilst inside, with some length. So that they can just pull on the lead, when something happens. I always do that with my rescues in early times. So I can get control quietly, softly, so they do not get a fright. I think loud noises only escalate a fight. I try to be quiet and just stop it
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    Whats an open ended lead and is there another name? I searched it on google and its came up with every thing but that
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    So... no one else has any advice? Of all the behaviorists and dog trainers you's got nothing?
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    More people might see it now the weekend is over.

    I *think* an open ended leash is when you put the metal clip part of the lead through the handle and use the loop as the collar, I posted a photo with what I am trying to describe. You might need Newfsie to clarify.
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    Yes if she is an old dog she could have dementia. Dogs can get all kinds of mental illnesses.

    What breed is she? How old is she? If she's not socialized well enough she may not be genuinely aggressive, she may just interact with other dogs in a dysfunctional manner. It doesn't sound like her previous owners cared very much about her so she was probably neglected. Some unsocialized dogs don't handle excitement or confrontation well and react by attacking and worrying at the closest thing. If your friend is scared of getting bitten she can make a simple catch pole from a broom handle and some washing line.

    Home made catch pole

    Use the catch pole to lead her into her crate, which will help to calm her down.

    Crate training is a great idea for dogs with anxiety, it's a dark safe place she can go when she's feeling iffy. Give her a cow's hoof or some kangaroo jerky and make her eat it in there, and pad it out with blankets to help her get used to it. It sounds like she's had a tough life with not much love, and she overreacts to a normal dogs behaviour because she sees it as threatening or annoying. Lead walking them together helps, I find walking dogs together side by side makes them bond with each other, and gets them used to being in each other's close vicinity.

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    Crate training is a good idea. Like Mosh said - just pair up being in the crate with yummy treats. My dog loves being in the crate. Not so much when I shut the door but she gets over it. Ie I won't open the door if she's carrying on like a pork chop - I cover it up completely and walk away. My fault for not putting in enough practice.

    As long as the crate is a place of safety and yummy treats - a dog will love being in there. It would be important to keep the other dogs out of the problem dog's crate. They may need a crate each ie their own space each.

    And like Mosh and Newfsie said - old dogs get all sorts of probelms - this one's main problem is probably deafness - perhaps followed by blindness or not so good eye sight so the other dogs can sneak up on her and surprise her and she can't hear the noises made to distract. It may help if the owners do something different like call the other dogs away, or slowly push a sacrificial pillow between the grumpy dogs. Or maybe pair a flash light flash with treats (instead of click and treat).

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    Open ended lead just means there is no loop to catch anything on...no hand holder. So the dog cannot get accidentally get caught up on anything.........Like a bit of rope or such
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    Thank you for all the great advice! I also advised her on crate training. But after the incident with tess attacking her billy boy she decided to fins her a GOOD home where she was the only dog. Which i think was an excellent idea for tess. As you guy's have said and from what she has told me the previous owners just had her as an outdoor ornament and she wasn't very socialized at all (till my friend was baby sitting her) In which case she house trained her.

    I am hoping for updates if she can give them to me. But thank you for all the ideas and i will pass them on to her for her to give to the new owners (and hopefully last).
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