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    I like the one I read that says " when you come home and find your dog has destroyed your favourite shoes/bags/whatever, roll up some newspaper and hit yourself over the head for being daft enough to leave them in an accessible place"
    I had a dog once that was chronically into getting into the big rubbish bin. Someone said to put a mousetrap under the lid. I look back and think what a mean thing to do. It worked. ( I would do it differently now, mainly put the bin somewhere else!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by farrview View Post
    I like the one I read that says " when you come home and find your dog has destroyed your favourite shoes/bags/whatever, roll up some newspaper and hit yourself over the head for being daft enough to leave them in an accessible place"
    I use that all the time LOL. Also for potty training..Puppy makes a mistake, hit yourself with a newspaper for not letting it out enough times LOL
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    rul i try your ider to nigth she go good recall when she not near the horses but soon as shes near them its like she truns of the recall swich arrr when im out walking her she all good and funny by jumping in the grass with her bum up in the air and jumping in and out of the grass she a angle when walking but soon as you get home and near the horses she a little terror and one day she going to get her self hurt doing it i give your ider a try when i get home
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    I think the worst advice I got was "use a slip chain" - not good for this dog. Not great for any dog.

    The main reason the dog club instructors liked it was because a dog wearing one couldn't escape ie pull out of their collar.

    The next worst advice was "don't use treats" - ARGH.

    And then there were the usual sack of counter productive advice - ie not just useless but harmful to your relationship with the dog...
    hit it with a rolled up newspaper. Actually Frosty thinks this is a fun came and the roll ends up shredded...
    hit / tap it on the nose
    rub its nose in the pee/poo.
    tell it "leave it"/"heel" and then yank on the collar.
    never take food from your dog's mouth (what if it's ratsak?)
    if it won't walk with you - just drag it - in the slip collar (dog still hates going for walks).

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    I once had a dog who would rush the front door and run out anytime it was opened, run down the street, across the busy road to the park where we walked. I had a professional trainer come to the house, this is what she did.

    She brought the dog to the front door - her intention, was to open the door, let the dog run out and slam the door behind him. No way was I gonna let her allow my dog run into traffic - she believed that he would hear the slam of the door and want back in - I knew he would be long gone before the door met the frame.

    So, on my insistance, she leashed the dog, opened the door, when he ran through she slammed the door so hard it nearly came off it's hinges (nearly squishing my dog in the process) She did this several times, until my usually confident friendly dog was cowering and I said enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post

    The next worst advice was "don't use treats" - ARGH.
    I say this is 'diffrent 'advice not bad/worst advice. My trainer would be rather pissed if i rocked up with a pocket full of treats. She's been doing it for about 50 odd years now (she's like 80 and still going lol).
    Maybe she's just old school but her methods work well for us. Just saying....i know your a big fan of treats and hate the check chains but after using it with success i still cant see what's wrong with these methods.


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    I think it depends on the dog. You need to know what they find rewarding and avoid what makes them shutdown - cos they can't learn anything when they're shut down.

    You also need to balance between being too excited to learn anything too. Sometimes food treats will do that too.

    Essentailly "treats" are rewards - what ever your dog will work for. If that's a pat and praise that's ok. I've seen whole dog clubs train without even praising their dogs when they get it right, only yanking on them or shaking them or yelling at them when they get it wrong. It's easy to see why the sit stay or recall is not reliable in that dog... and all the dogs in the class look miserable.

    For my dog - reward is context specific. There are times when she won't take food. Like when there are sheep to "herd".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asrais View Post
    I once had a dog who would rush the front door and run out anytime it was opened, run down the street, across the busy road to the park where we walked. ...
    Please tell me how you fixed this Maxi does this and where ever his eyes take him and I am scared of what can happen...I want to engage a trainer but don't know what to look out for, Sunshine Coast Caloundra Area.

    I know that he doesn't respond to yelling as I didn't yell at him but at my family who had left the door open in the first place, and Maxi was a little timid for awhile around me. It brought me to tears, I never want this to happen again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by maximus-cav View Post
    Please tell me how you fixed this Maxi does this and where ever his eyes take him and I am scared of what can happen...I want to engage a trainer but don't know what to look out for, Sunshine Coast Caloundra Area.

    I know that he doesn't respond to yelling as I didn't yell at him but at my family who had left the door open in the first place, and Maxi was a little timid for awhile around me. It brought me to tears, I never want this to happen again...
    We got a long leash and would sit at the door. When the dog was calm and stayed inside the threshold we would praise/ reward him. We then practiced walking in and out and doing other things around the door, again, when he was calm and stayed inside, we would reward him. Eventually he got the hint - though he was never 100% trustworthy, he was less likely to bolt. We also worked really hard on his recall, so if he did do a runner, we could call him back immediately.

    I think, when looking for a trainer, look for recommendations and check references - the trainer I hired was reputed to be one of the best in my area, but I did not like her methods, so I did not ask her to come back again.

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    I put Frosty on lead before I open the front door. And I ask her to sit. If she gets up when I start to open the door, I close it again. I don't need to do this fast or slam - because I open the door slowly and watch her - if she starts to lean forward ... close.

    I also do this at the back door, but without the lead. And for some of the internal house doors.

    So she knows she can't go through the door until she's sitting calmly and I say she can "go".

    I've read Jane Harper recommended for the Brisbane / GC area. If she's not available she might be able to recommend someone.
    Dogs On Track - Home Page

    Or this guy, Craig Murray
    Dog School The home of Dog training in Australia: Home

    I don't know either of them myself though.

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