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    And another 3 more today. Surrendered in Melbourne
    1 x China Brown 4 yr old male
    1 x 5 yr old fawn female (has a yeast infection)
    1 x 12 month old female (needs entropion)

    All need to be desexed, vaccinated and microchipped. I have NO WHERE to place the male into care atm......hoping for a miricle before Thursday!

    Moby will leave for his forever home with Sarah & Will on the 17th Jan.....one down 57,000 (well seems like it) to go!
    SPR fosters:Rowland, Matrix, Mia, Arizona, Romeo, Wrinkles, George, Molly, Su Lin, Ellie, Charlie, Charlotte, Lulu, Montana http://www.sharpeirescue.com.au

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    I've been following your posts and admire the effort you go to for the dogs, you should be congratulated.
    Would it be right to believe the breed havent been established in Australia for a long period of time, would this be correct? If so how come such large numbers seem to be around? Did the puppy add (toilet tissues???) have a big effect on the breed? I ask this purely because i remember how everyone thought how cute the pup was, myself included. In saying that i couldnt believe how different the adult appeared from the pup and was wondering does this in anyway reflect the amount of rescues.
    Please dont take any offence to my ignorance of this breed, i have never had much to do with them (i see 1 at puppy school) however it seems prior to the tv campaign i had never heard of them then after this tv campaign they were everywhere.

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    Great post Peter!

    And Shar this just breaks my heart. Can you email me some info and pictures? I have a friend who is looking for a dog and I honestly believe he's make a wonderful shar pei owner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter70 View Post
    I've been following your posts and admire the effort you go to for the dogs, you should be congratulated.
    Would it be right to believe the breed havent been established in Australia for a long period of time, would this be correct? If so how come such large numbers seem to be around? Did the puppy add (toilet tissues???) have a big effect on the breed? I ask this purely because i remember how everyone thought how cute the pup was, myself included. In saying that i couldnt believe how different the adult appeared from the pup and was wondering does this in anyway reflect the amount of rescues.
    Please dont take any offence to my ignorance of this breed, i have never had much to do with them (i see 1 at puppy school) however it seems prior to the tv campaign i had never heard of them then after this tv campaign they were everywhere.
    Hi Peter, All excellent questions that I will be delighted to answer, but I will have to get back to you a little later as I am about to malesab everyone!! Stay tuned, it is my absolute delight that you are interested enough to ask what you have!! I will get back to you later this evening! Cheers Amanda
    SPR fosters:Rowland, Matrix, Mia, Arizona, Romeo, Wrinkles, George, Molly, Su Lin, Ellie, Charlie, Charlotte, Lulu, Montana http://www.sharpeirescue.com.au

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    To me, TV adds, movies influence a lot of people. In England where it is legal to own them, the Harry Potter movies made many rush out and buy owls. No forethought at all, to the extent that now that they are being surrendered in great numbers, sanctuaries are being built.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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    When I think what dumba*s parents would buy their kid an owl, it makes me wish you had to get a certificate in parenting before you hopped between the sheets.

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    Sigh. Does this fall under the realm of horrible rehoming

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter70 View Post
    I've been following your posts and admire the effort you go to for the dogs, you should be congratulated.
    Would it be right to believe the breed havent been established in Australia for a long period of time, would this be correct? If so how come such large numbers seem to be around? Did the puppy add (toilet tissues???) have a big effect on the breed? I ask this purely because i remember how everyone thought how cute the pup was, myself included. In saying that i couldnt believe how different the adult appeared from the pup and was wondering does this in anyway reflect the amount of rescues.
    Please dont take any offence to my ignorance of this breed, i have never had much to do with them (i see 1 at puppy school) however it seems prior to the tv campaign i had never heard of them then after this tv campaign they were everywhere.
    Right, time to answer before taking Bella for a late night run.

    Lets start at the beginning. The pei could very well be the first dog breed known to man! They can be dated back to the Han Dynasty and for all the years since then and until the 1950's they have been the guard dogs of the Chinese farmers. In the 1950/60's with famine rife in China the government at the time put such outrageous taxes on keeping a dog, most certainly the peasant farmers could not afford to keep a dog, hence they were eaten. In the mid 1960's when the pei population had reduced to literally a handful, a fellow by the name of Matgo Law enlisted the help of the Americans to ensure the breed was not to become extinct. And so a couple of pei flew to the USA and a breeding program started over there. By the late 1980's a couple of pei travelled to Australia and the breeding program also started here. So yes a very new breed to Australia. And I would add that the Chinese pei (bone mouth) is a different dog to the US pei (meat mouth) the bone mouth being a really hardy healthy dog and the meatmouth a far more high maintenence dog - wrinkles/eye/ear etc problems even though they are the same breed.

    Numbers needing rescue have increased (and sadly still continue to do so) dramatically because of the "make a quick buck" mentality. This together with the toilet paper commercial fame had many people rush out to buy a pei, not realising they are one of the dominent breeds of dogs like a rotty, a staffy, an Amstaff. Not for the faint hearted and not to be left in a back yard without extensive socialisation and training. Unfortunately, uneducated people still head out to purchase pei and there are many breeders out there who are only interested in the $$$ signs rather than homing a pup correctly and eduacting the would be owner. So, in a nut shell, if you were to bring home your cute bundle of wrinkles, stick it in the back yard for about 9 months you will have an unsocialised, fearful perhaps fear aggressive, untrained nightmare. Need I say we get many many rescues in aged between 1-2 yrs for this reason alone.

    A staffy is a staffy is a staffy! Reasonably predictable in looks and behaviour (same goes for most dogs, I just use the staffy as an example) where as pei are quite the individual in behaviour and looks. With their wrinkles, it is the mucus under the skin which defines how rolly they are. The more mucus, the more rolly, and the more likey it is that they suffer mucinosis (individual with a lot of diseases too - mucinosis, shar pei fever, swollen hock syndrome to name a few). They are designed to "rip" easily so as to get away if attacked by a preditor. They also repair a lot quicker than other dogs! Stitches are most commonly left in for 12-14 days in any other breed, however a pei needs stitches for only 8 - 10 days other wise the skin can grow over the stitches and present a whole new set of problems.

    There is so much more to the pei than I can condense here. They are an amazing breed and so interesting to research. For example the lines on their forheads in China all mean something. Some will look like the shape of a fortune cookie and may mean long life, some will look like something else and may mean good health, get my drift? Also they have two types of ears, one that "curls" like a Chinese mushroom - called fungi ears and the other the shape of a clam shell hence called clam shell ears.

    Hope you have enjoyed my mini breed description, please don't hesitate to ask me anything else that comes to mind. If I know the answer I am only too happy to share, if I don't know the answer, I am sure one of my interstate collegues will!

    Attachments:Henry the blue is more of the Chinese version of a bone mouth with "Fungi" ears and Noah the Red is more like the US meatmouth with "clamshell" ears

    Cheers Amanda

    Edit it add: Both these boys are from registered breeders and both are rescue dogs. Henry's breeder (whom I have a great deal of respect for) has given me Henry's papers for linage purposes. We believe that Noah is the product of a mother and son mating, obviously not something a registered breeder would like to admit to, therefore Noah and his 4 siblings were dumped in various parks around Sydney.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shar Pei Rescue Victoria View Post
    Right, time to answer before taking Bella for a late night run.

    Lets start at the beginning. The pei could very well be the first dog breed known to man! They can be dated back to the Han Dynasty and for all the years since then and until the 1950's they have been the guard dogs of the Chinese farmers. In the 1950/60's with famine rife in China the government at the time put such outrageous taxes on keeping a dog, most certainly the peasant farmers could not afford to keep a dog, hence they were eaten. In the mid 1960's when the pei population had reduced to literally a handful, a fellow by the name of Matgo Law enlisted the help of the Americans to ensure the breed was not to become extinct. And so a couple of pei flew to the USA and a breeding program started over there. By the late 1980's a couple of pei travelled to Australia and the breeding program also started here. So yes a very new breed to Australia. And I would add that the Chinese pei (bone mouth) is a different dog to the US pei (meat mouth) the bone mouth being a really hardy healthy dog and the meatmouth a far more high maintenence dog - wrinkles/eye/ear etc problems even though they are the same breed.

    Numbers needing rescue have increased (and sadly still continue to do so) dramatically because of the "make a quick buck" mentality. This together with the toilet paper commercial fame had many people rush out to buy a pei, not realising they are one of the dominent breeds of dogs like a rotty, a staffy, an Amstaff. Not for the faint hearted and not to be left in a back yard without extensive socialisation and training. Unfortunately, uneducated people still head out to purchase pei and there are many breeders out there who are only interested in the $$$ signs rather than homing a pup correctly and eduacting the would be owner. So, in a nut shell, if you were to bring home your cute bundle of wrinkles, stick it in the back yard for about 9 months you will have an unsocialised, fearful perhaps fear aggressive, untrained nightmare. Need I say we get many many rescues in aged between 1-2 yrs for this reason alone.

    A staffy is a staffy is a staffy! Reasonably predictable in looks and behaviour (same goes for most dogs, I just use the staffy as an example) where as pei are quite the individual in behaviour and looks. With their wrinkles, it is the mucus under the skin which defines how rolly they are. The more mucus, the more rolly, and the more likey it is that they suffer mucinosis (individual with a lot of diseases too - mucinosis, shar pei fever, swollen hock syndrome to name a few). They are designed to "rip" easily so as to get away if attacked by a preditor. They also repair a lot quicker than other dogs! Stitches are most commonly left in for 12-14 days in any other breed, however a pei needs stitches for only 8 - 10 days other wise the skin can grow over the stitches and present a whole new set of problems.

    There is so much more to the pei than I can condense here. They are an amazing breed and so interesting to research. For example the lines on their forheads in China all mean something. Some will look like the shape of a fortune cookie and may mean long life, some will look like something else and may mean good health, get my drift? Also they have two types of ears, one that "curls" like a Chinese mushroom - called fungi ears and the other the shape of a clam shell hence called clam shell ears.

    Hope you have enjoyed my mini breed description, please don't hesitate to ask me anything else that comes to mind. If I know the answer I am only too happy to share, if I don't know the answer, I am sure one of my interstate collegues will!

    Attachments:Henry the blue is more of the Chinese version of a bone mouth with "Fungi" ears and Noah the Red is more like the US meatmouth with "clamshell" ears

    Cheers Amanda
    Mandy, would you mind if I copy pasted this into my 'preparing for my Pei word document?

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    I love this forum.

    I knew very little about Shar Pei until now Shar. Very interesting. I don't think they would be the dog for me but I admire greatly what you are doing. It's such a shame that people don't think of the future when they get a dog.
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