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    I get my pups out fast. But prior to this, i will check with the vet if any parvo is around plus other risks; blue green algae etc. If it is, then i socialise in 'clean' areas, such as vaccinated mates dogs in gardens etc till fully vaccinated.

    Vaccination: there is more to this than your average punter understands. There are strong arguments against vaccinations. There are strong arguments for. For my human family, we dont vaccinate. For my dogs, i will vaccinate.

    I do gradient exposure in children of mine. And all have immunity to the illness that we vaccinate humans to. As a migrant, i was not allowed to enter my children in ausssie school without vaccination. So we got the immunology tests done to prove, no need. Still schools would not let them enter, based on a head teachers medical understanding of immunisation. Whatever, i then lied, falsified a certificate, and educated them.

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    Hmmm I see..
    Well I could go on with child immunizations as I fully believe that children SHOULD be fully immunized
    but thats another topic and a long one so we wont go there..

    As for animal vaccinations my cat breeder she is totally against vacc her animals.
    she says she has seen to many deaths caused by vaccinations...
    So it's a win win situation I guess..

    Anyway Yesterday I was in a panic so I text all my new puppy owners to ask how puppy is
    going and they all text me back saying such & such is settling in well..
    So I feel at ease with that...
    Talk ABout Stressful ....

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    Newfie posted some really good articles regarding dog immunization not long ago and they were very enlightening.

    It seems we are killing our pets with some unneccessary toxins.

    The drug companies and vets are the ones that profit from excessive vac's and i learned you can test your dog to check there level of immunity and if vaccinaction is actually required or not.
    I do still believe however that pups need vaccinations but after that?????

    It always good to do research and just not be a follower of an archaic vaccination schedual that has been in place unchanged since the 50's. I not suggesting dont vaccinate....just do the research.
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    How can you check your dog's level of immunity cavalierqld ??

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    The thread is called joint problems linked to vaccines (sorry not sure how to post a link)

    And the test is called a titre test (blood test), check out newfies links, its very interesting, and certainly worth looking into.

    I wont be vaccinating my 4 -6 year old dogs again...will test them to see if they need it first as there is just way to much evidence /data to show they often cause more harm than good.
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    Lucky, i too believe that children should always be immunised. Just not via a vaccination. Which is extremely possible, if you have the know how.

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    This where we are currently, 3 weeks shy of being fully immunised. My vet says 16weeks plus a week. I live near a fantastic dog ( people in summer) beach which is not over used. There are some dogs but judging by footprints only a few before us ( the ocean does wipe some prints of course). We will meet less than 5 and often none on any walk.
    She meets the occasional dog and is learning how to greet people without peeing herself in excitement.
    We also walk bush tracks south of us. I am very concerned about parvo but this super active and enthusiastic 14 week border collie pup needs the exercise as well. She cheerfully walked along a remote sandy track to a beach yesterday, 8 klm round trip. We took breaks of course. We haven't done any roads or parks.
    Every time we go out she learns a bit more about how to behave around people especially, but also gains confidence. She spooked at everything at 8 weeks, cars any noise ( like my OH sneezing or blowing his nose!). This is a thing of the past although being a border collie the spook and flee is an instinct. Through the experiences she has also gained confidence and developed the bond with us. So I guess we do the best we can balancing physical and social/emotional needs.

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    This is all interesting..

    Yes bernie it is possible to not immunize your child..
    infact there's a lady at my childs school who does not immunize
    she's some sort of herbal remedy type person..
    All I can say is at the end of the day if your child gets admitted
    to hospital with measles or some other life threatening thing,
    imagine saying no I do not immunize.

    It's free for children so why not make it a priority for children...
    Sorry but I am ALL for immunizations for children and believe
    people that do not do it need their head read, it's a childs life
    at risk.

    Please don't judge me I am just having my say here..
    Each to their own..

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    Bernie

    The chances of serious problems including being crippled or death in an unvaccinated child exposed to the various diseases - that we usually vaccinate to prevent - is far more likely any chances of complications from getting the vaccinations.

    Even stuff that is fairly mild in childhood - like chicken pox - can have serious repercussions later - like shingles. And if the child should happen not to get chicken pox as a child - then getting it as an adult is nasty.

    It's not the sort of risk I'd be taking with my family if I had any.

    If these diseases were harmless - we wouldn't be spending squillions on developing vaccines. And I'm old enough to remember the kids wearing braces after catching polio. And you didn't see the ones that ended up in "iron lungs". Not much of a life, being stuck in a breathing machine.

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    A real issue is that immunisation is a population health measure and its efficacy depends on the vast majority of people immunising. The less people that do may result in some of these vicious diseases regaining a foothold. Polio and smallpox were scourges for previous generations, it isn't just an individual decision but also a big picture. I do get both sides and there isn't an easy answer is there.

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