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    Default Graviola anyone?

    I'm not sure where else this should or could go, so am starting in the H&N section - Mods, feel free to move if appropriate.

    So, as you know, Rosie has bloody cancer. {No, not cancer, Bloody Cancer}.

    I have been doing some 'Dr Googling' and came across a lot of references on US-based sited for a natural supplement called Graviola. It's derived from the soursop plant from the Amazon that has shown as much success as failure in assisting dogs (as well as us humans) cope with Bloody Cancer {of all varieties, not just Bladder}.

    Has anyone here used, heard of, can contribute anecdotes, has worked with someone whose pet {or person} has taken Graviola? It is available here as a capsule supplement. Apparently it is quite bitter. In the USA it's available as a liquid that you can dose their water with.

    I'm tempted to get a bottle to try it {in tiny amounts first} to see if it helps at all.

    We're not going the chemo route - the cost to the quality of her life is too great. For me now it's about the quality of life, and if this stuff can add to it, them I am all for it.

    The only drug Rosie is on at the moment is her antibiotic.

    Any advice, discussion, opinion, rantage - very welcome!

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    I have been where you are now..our boy had lymphoma, he was PTS just before Christmas 2010...

    I googled and did just about every supplement..he lived a lot longer then was expected. The vet was very surprised........I contacted Natural & Homeopathic Dog Products & Remedies | All Natural Dog, Help Your Best Friend Naturally at All Natural Dog. and we were on some different supplements from them.

    I think they made a difference, because he really brightened up after he started the OptiCell.

    Tobias was a Rescue, who was found in shocking condition at a pound, with a broken jaw and later we realised he had lymphoma......We just gave him lots good times and he was much improved for a while and enjoyed life for a while.

    We took each day one at the time and we did a lot of things with our dogs that he really enjoyed. The hardest thing was the final moment, when you have to allow them to go. You will have some very sad times, but also try to enjoy Rosie.

    I think if you want to try it, use it in the amounts they recommend...is it the stuff from Hawaii? If it is a newfie friend had her dog on it and she said it helped, but i cannot remeber the name of the stuff

    Thinking of you and Rosie, just give her a big hug from us
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    Not sure about this stuff but I do know Tumeric has been proven to have some effect. Worthwhile looking at.

    Sorry that you have to go through this. Hoping you can make her comfortable for the rest of her time.

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    Vit C, garlic, tumeric, Miatake mushroom powder, sorrell, ginseng, milkthistle, green tea
    (that is all I can remember for now).

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    Newfsie, Just wondering about you dog that had lymphoma What were the first signs? And how long did he live after the first signs?
    My first rescue was a labx, when he was 3 he suddenly began walking very gingerly and if you bumped him slighly he would yelp, couldnt sleep wel, was restless and went off food.
    After some tests the vet diagnosed lymphoma and told us it was cruel to keep him alive as he was in much pain, so as a family we spent a week with him then he was PTS.
    Have you ever known a dog to go from zero (healthy and active) to extremely unwell almost overnight?
    I often think back and wonder if we did the right thing?
    The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated.
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    Newfsie, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for putting me onto OptiCell.

    It arrived yesterday, and I am giving it to the Rozza 4 times a day (I am capsulating it as her appetite is still iffy), and today, after just 3 doses, her nose is cold. I cannot remember the last time her nose was cold.

    And tonight she was hungry. Actually looking for food.

    Thank Dog for the Dog Forum, and kisses and hugs to you Newfsie.

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    I must admit I thought the same happened to Tobias, but I didn't want to sound too hopeful for you, he lived way past what the vet expected and he felt well and happy..every extra positive day is important.....Give your Rozza a big hug from me. And they are lovely helpful people too at natural dog I am so pleased that is making her feel better.


    As to the lymphoma....Tobias did not have any pain, he was happy (with his Opti-cell on board). We were given a couple of weeks when diagnosed, but he lived for another four months happily. He went for drives, walks and swims...he loved life and was so happy. Loved playing with our other three. He went to the kennel Club on Obedience nights just to interact with people and socialise with everyone, he loved that
    We had to PTS him, because his main lump grew too big and it was probably going to affect his toiletting. We did not want that to happen to him. So it was not pain, but a physical complication...he still stepped up into the back of the Jeep, he still was happy, face in the wind....We still miss him, he was such a gentleman and sweet boy. I will never understand why he was left at the pound. (shedding a tear for him again)
    Pets are forever

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    That's great news Pinkest, lots of love to Rosie girl ...

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    Good girl Rosie....keep it up.

    Very pleased for you Pinkest. Times like this any little win is worth a million bucks !!

    (Touchwood....just so my post dosnt jinx ya's......i'm suss like that )


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    It's definitely an up and down road... this morning, she doesn't want to eat. I managed to convince her to snaffle 3 good ohs, but that's it.

    But, she did have an extra meal last night of roasted chicken leg knuckles (the gristle knob right on the bottom of the leg). She scoffed 10 of those down, plus about 6 top knuckles, and the meat of half a drumstick.

    I have such joy when she has a good day, then am beside myself with worry when she doesn't. I hate it.

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