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    I was thinking perhaps making her dinner in the morning & rationing parts of her dinner to her during the day. I could understand where the vet was coming from - if u give her dinner in the morn she has all day to burn it but it cant be good going to bed on an empty stomach : (

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    Exactly Kuri

    It is not good for her to go such a long stretch with absolutely nothing in her stomach , it can often exacerbate problems.

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    Just like a person i suppose, i know i wouldn't be very happy going to bed on an empty stomach!

    I weighed her lastnight she has lost nearly a kg - phew. One more and that's it, i refuse to drop her to 11/12kgs, i don't see the need for it to go that far especially as it is heading into winter. My vet has never said her weight was ever THAT bad, this was my mum's vet who said she was obese!

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    I think you need to stop worrying the dog is going to starve to death. She won't by a long shot. My dogs have even not eaten for a whole 24 hours happily, usually in the hot weather and it was their choice. Dogs are not cows, they do not need to graze all day in order to stay healthy. If you can see the last rib, easily feel the rest she's a good weight, I prefer touching the dog to weighing which really tells you nothing of their fat or muscle gain/loss. From the photo there though Molly does look a bit chubby, then again I like my dogs lean.

    As for winter, she doesnt need a big fat layer she needs a coat I do agree with chop ration out her meal for the day in the morning and feed her ONLY from that container. That way you feel better you're feeding her snacks etc but you're doing it within set parameters. Dogs are master manipulators it is within them to keep eating until they explode ... for example, my rottweiler got into 5kg of Royal Canin once, he was the size of a house. There was no way that dog was hungry, I made myself some dinner and he sat there mournfully licking his lips and staring at me like he was starving.

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    In my opinion it is often the human food that is the culprit. I never, ever fed my dog off my plate but when I went overseas a friend minded her and he was always giving his dogs bits of the food he was eating (including KFCs and icecream). He fed her exactly the same dog food as I did at home, but she always gained a few kilos after she had stayed with him for a few weeks.

    I actually have always left dry food out for my dogs and they never over-ate. I don't like having to decide how much my dog should eat exactly and expect them to self-regulate. Because they know there is always food available when they need it, they don't feel the urge to empty the bowl of dry food. They only touched it when they feel hungry and could not wait till I give them their dinner. But I do understand some dogs are probably more food obsessed than others.

    ETA: But I do occasionally let my dog fast for 24 hours. I know, I'm weird...

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    oh totally agree with you beloz, her actual dinner & portions are healthy it's all the human junk that i throw her and i am guilty of chucking her the odd chicken when we have KFC also as i stated all the dogs also had two bowls of dog biscuits to graze on during the day WHICH THEY BARELY TOUCHED - so no they don't eat until they explode, the only reason she's eating them now is because she is only getting the one meal and nothing else all day - no scraps of our dinner, no leftovers out of the cat bowl.

    I never thought "i'm going to starve her to death", my main concern is how she's interpreting in her mind only having the one meal, last thing i want to start is some sort of food obsession disorder between the 3 dogs, it took us a long time to stop rexy from guarding the bowls from the other two. Today i rationed their dinners giving them half for breakfast and half for "dinner" so at least in their minds they probably think they are getting the two meals but in reality it's still just the one and definitely no more human junk food for the remainder of their lives! I'm quite happy having dogs with meat on them so to speak, as long as they are happy & healthy it's not like they're working dogs or anything - sack of bones just doesn't do it for me.

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    No dog should be a sack of bones, but remember a couple of extra kilos of fat on a small dog is the equivalent of quite a few extra kilos on a larger breed. Dogs can be well covered with muscle, they dont need a bigger layer of fat on them that is when it gets unhealthy.
    If the vet has warned about being close to diabetes it means her body fat content is too high. Joint, mobility and cirulation problems then follow because if you think about it, 3kg is 20% of her bodyweight. It's not until problems start that you realise what those extra couple of kilos mean for your pet and prevention is always a lot nicer then the cure especially when it comes to diabetes which can be prevented now you have the opportunity too

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    HELP!

    It's been about 6 weeks and she has barely lost anything! To date she has lost 500g

    We have been feeding her mornings only (we tried the rationing, but because i do casual shift work, it's easier for me to give her whole meal in the morning). Between the 3 dogs they get half a raw beef heart & half a cooked beef tongue along with half a handful of biscuits (that's each) & a fake gummy bone thing (dunno what they're called, it's like a chewy raw hide thing from KMART) to amuse herself during the day. I've made sure that everybody in my household is 100% behind giving the dogs no scraps or extra's were all so worried about her health.

    Excercise is still the same all three get a 60min walk in the morning, another 60min walk in the evening followed by ball time at the off-lead park. I take her alone for a quick 5min jog around the block.

    I'd like some input on other options, am i feeding her the right sort of raw food? Should i perhaps take the biscuits out all together and look at a more holistic brand? What about taking out half her raw food and replacing it with phuds or something?? I'm so confused & i'm really worried about her health anything i will take on board, i'm desperate
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    One of my friends switched her dog onto lite / low calorie dog food, because she was doing a lot of training with a lot of treats, and that was making her dog noticably fat - but she couldn't bear to feed her dog less dinner. So switching worked for her.

    I'd consider just reducing everything you give your dog by 10% - each week until you get to a weight you like her at. And maybe going for an extra walk or three.

    Between the 3 dogs they get half a raw beef heart & half a cooked beef tongue along with half a handful of biscuits
    This is a bit confusing - only one dog is fat, is she eating all of this? Do you make sure the dogs are not sharing? Beef heart is very rich (lots of calories per gram). Not sure about tongue. Half a handful of biscuits is also a bit vague. Have you got a measuring cup - maybe try using that. eg half a cup then 1/3 cup etc. Take your half a handful and stick it in the measuring cup and see what it is, so you can be consistent and cut it back if you need to.

    At least she's only getting one breakfast time now. That did seem like an easier option. Also not sure about the calories in a gummy bone either. Maybe have you considered a nylabone - ie a kind of plastic bone that can be flavoured by boiling in stock (water with stock cubes) for chewing. Or feeding carrots instead. Carrots take nearly as much calories to eat, as they have in them.

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    I put all her meal into a measuring cup this morning and it came to about 1 cup of food. What i meant to say is i dice up half a tongue & half a heart to distribute between the three of them (with Rexy getting a little more & Benji getting a little less) I watch whilst all the animals eat so i know that she isn't sneaking any extra. They each have their own separate bowls.

    I've decided to scrap her kibble out all together and get her some carrots instead. I'm also this weekend going to head out to Pattons Big gun butchers and see if i can get an alternative to her hearts (she looves her hearts) like some fish or something. I've been told putting some pumpkin & sweet potato in there won't hurt either.

    We don't train with treats, just lots of praise and then she use to get dinner after training, but instead i throw her a gummy bone - Mum gets them so have no idea what they're called that's just what i call them (they're white, shaped like a bone but made of like, cartilidge) next time i'll ask her to keep the packet so i can have a look at the calories etc.

    I take Rex bike riding, and would like to take Molly as well but i'm afraid with her being overweight and all that might be too much on her legs? She gets plenty of excercise between her walks, park & Rex (they wrestle all day) it's her food intake i'm worried about
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