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    I've heard complaints that some dogs get fat on Black Hawk. We're using it for treats at the moment and my dog loves it. But she's not particularily fussy.

    I also feed my own home made wet food that contains mince cooked with veg (carrot and sweet potato), brown rice, bran, oats and sometimes I add some calcium powder which one of my vets says is not needed since she gets dry as well.

    I think the note on the black hawk just says to feed more of it to puppies or pregnant or lactating bitches.

    Evil hound says it's time for a walk.

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    I had muscle mass loss for my two on BH. Yup go the oats like Nattylou said. The protein off raw meat is different from high refined protein dry foods. Meat on the bone is one thing, there is a lot of other things in there compared with some of the power formulas that tweak 30% and more. It's basically like eating a steak or chugging down a protein booster power shake - their both protein but different effects. Trust me, I tried my Mal bitch on 30% RC and it was like someone fed her straight red cordial. I have both my girls on raw now and both are doing well, the oats help keep the older one looking better. Your dog sounds pretty good actually, but a little body fat can help them if they get ill or stressed.

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    We should get 99bottles to tell us how much running her dog does every day - that probably has a lot to do with his condition - last time I saw a picture he looked excellent to me and can certainly out run and out last my dog if the lure coursing is anything to go by.

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    I got 6 free sacks of science diet given to me last year. Neither of my dogs would touch it with a barge pole.
    Bottles, you have a active dog, that is NOT overweight on puppy food.
    I have a active dog that i cant keep weight on.
    As the difference is the fat content basically, i would swap over, but watch the weight.

    There are satin balls, which you can make up yourself, this puts weight on dogs. Though only marginally with my dog who is a working GSD. But he is very active, and high drive dog. So its either keep him active, or he eats the house.

    Sounds like you are feeding your dog well. And that the dry pup food is no longer relevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    We should get 99bottles to tell us how much running her dog does every day - that probably has a lot to do with his condition - last time I saw a picture he looked excellent to me and can certainly out run and out last my dog if the lure coursing is anything to go by.
    Well he is looking fantastic at the moment, and I want to maintain that. I'm just scared that by switching him from puppy dry to adult dry, he might lose condition because the adult food I think is lower in energy? That's why I was hoping for a 'high performance"/working dog dry food maybe. I would feed him all raw, but he refuses to eat anything other than meat. I even struggle getting him to eat eggs :s

    In regards to how much running - it depends, but like this week for example. We have done 2 15km bike rides - average speed about 20km/hr (I go every 2nd day). He is not even puffed from this and has a romp with the puppy when he gets home. He has gone to the beach for about 3 hours, we throw the ball out to sea as far as we can with a ball thrower and he swims to retrieve it. Again this does not tire him out and when we sit down to rest, he starts digging a massive hole to bury his ball and hide it from the puppy (the beach is the only place he's allowed to dig). At intervals he will also go for zoomies with her. He is a very energetic digger lol. Over the weekend, we went for 2 bushwalks, one in the Adelaide Hills one in Kuipto Forest. Both were about 10km for us, but he chased a couple of rabbits and runs most of the time (he doesn't really walk much, he's either running or flat out bolting) so who knows how far he ran. My next door neighbour owns an entire male GSD with whom Sammy has a 'bromance'. We let them play once or twice a week - this is the only thing that tires him out. They run and chase each other and they wrestle. After 2 hours of this, Sammy and the GSD will lie down - they tire each other out. All day he plays with Zoe, who I reckon will be dominant over him as an adult and might be bigger too. They play tug, they chase (well Zoe chases Sammy when he does his zoomies) and they wrestle - they are a great match energy wise. We also went to a dog park in the hills - we go to one each week and I put Sammy through his paces on the agility equipment. Unfortunately there was a deer herd nearby that provided an impressive distraction...
    Sammy also does training sessions every day for about 20 mins.

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    Saw this reply to someones question on another forum. maybe newfie could confirm this is right working in a vets?

    I work at a vet clinic, and what they say about Science Diet is true. SD PAYS vets to advertise their food as "above and beyond", when it's not.
    If you want good results, I'd suggest Acana, Natural Balance, Innova, Performatrin, Nutrience, and Wellness.
    Don't go for grocery/department store brands. They do nothing for your dog & are full of fillers.
    I've seen some people on here recommend Royal Canin's puppy food.. No. It's not good either.
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    Wow bottles, he sure is one lucky dog out on all those adventures..nice going!
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    Food for your Dog Bowhouse - Australia's Award-Winning Store for All Your Pet Needs

    These guys - I haven't shopped with them but they've got all the holisitc stuff and the not quite so holistic stuff.

    They used to not have innova because that brand had an exclusive arrangement with a chain that sells from puppy mills. ARGH

    They seem to have innova now so something seems to have changed.

    There is a dog salon on fullarton road near corner Carlton St Highgate, SA, that sells Artemis - which is a far as I know is one of the highest quality dry dog foods, but it is imported from the USA.

    I watched a muscle tv show today - and it's take on how to cut fat and build muscle was interesting. Sweet potato and boiled chicken breast or avoid the white carbs like white bread, white rice etc, and eat more brocolli and chicken. And they also had a rapid cell recovery product that was supposed to help with cell and muscle recovery immediately after excercise. So as best I could tell, you could eat their powder or you could eat sushi in white rice - because that includes protein eg the fish and the white rice is absorbed fast... It was like a whole other world as far as nutrition and work outs go. Yikes.

    99bottles, I think you're probably right eg the adult versions of dog food have less energy / calories per serve.

    Does he like kitchener buns? Cos that does it for me, and finger buns with icing... Frosty likes chicken drumstick biscuits... and kitten biscuits (now those are high fat high cal).

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    Excuse my ignorance, but what is a 'kitchener bun'? If it's not pure meat or yoghurt or cheese, probably not lol. If it weren't for Zoe, I doubt he would even eat the lamb shank bone I gave him this morning (he just doesn't want her to have it). He is the best he's ever been now that we have a second dog - there is no food he can't resist but if Zoe wants it he has to have it. It used to take him 3 days to get through a bowl of his premium puppy food, and often bones would go untouched in the yard. Now he will eat 2 of those bowls a day and everything else I give him, so long as she's present.
    Sammy won't eat raw fish Zoe will though. She is going to be huge I think. She eats like twice as much as him and is 3/4 his height at only 4 months (and he's 29 inches at the shoulder). In fact, Zoe eats everything and through her I finally have a vacuum for the kitchen (Sammy thinks he's too good for food that's on the floor...) I have to say I much prefer her eating habits to his - it's much easier to just control how much food the dog can have than it is to make them eat :s

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    Gawd 99bottles

    You're in SA - you haven't lived until you've eaten a kitchener bun. It isn't really dog food tho Frosty said she was willing to try it, I wasn't willing to share.

    It's vaguely like a cinnamon donut crossed with a jam donut and a cream bun.

    Take one donut - no hole, deep fry until cooked, roll in sugar, slice through on an almost horizontal angle, spread inside with red jam and fill with fresh cream. Trick is finding a bakery that knows what Fresh Cream is.

    Current fave Bakeries for Kitchener buns -
    Opies on Unley Road opposite Mitre 10, Unley
    Orange Spot - at end of Anzac Highway opposite the Buffalo, G'nelg
    St Peters Bakery - corner 7th ave and Stephens Tce, St Peters.

    Anyway I'm pretty sure that if your hound would eat them often enough - he would get fat. Failing that there's Fritz (a bit like devon) or metwurst (a bit like salami). Probably also do the job.

    You've got some cultural education to be done. South Australia, with our peculiar German Heritage has food and food names found nowhere else in the world.

    PS lobethal Bakery - Lobethal, Woodside or Stirling is pretty good at them too.

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