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    Hi, I've switched my boxer x 9 month old female Ruby to raw food and Blackhawk Holistic dry food.

    The guy at City Farmers told me he feeds his dogs the pet mince that is packed in 1kg bags, it's chicken mince, and he divides it into four portions for his two staffies, the other option is the BARF or RAW mince which are more convenient to me only as they are packed in pattie size portions (and I don't have to touch the mince)

    I bought both, the locally prepared chicken mince is about $3 a kilo vs the BARF which is about $25 for 3 kilos.

    Ruby loves the BARF, I have fed her the chicken and the combo, it looks like there's vegies in there too. Today I fed Ruby the pet mince from the local supplier and she loved it.

    Does the RAW mince have a better grade of mince than the local, or would there be any great difference in the product as the price difference is quite significant ($3 a kilo against $7 a kilo) ? Thanks.

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    This is from the BARF website:
    "based on wholesome raw meat and bones, wholesome raw offal and other healthy unprocessed foods, including crushed raw vegetables, fruit, herbs, kelp and probiotics"

    The difference seems to be that it includes those non-meat extras. I add Phuds to pet mince for my dog to get a similar result. I buy my mince in 2 kilo bags from Aldi, but will go check some local butchers tomorrow to see if I can buy it from them.

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    Thanks Beloz, I think I'll get some Phuds, do you buy it online ?

    I've been freezing half of the mince in the Kongs and give one to Ruby every morning when I to go work and give her the other half in her bowl in the evening. I might try the butcher too, but I bought "pet" mince many years ago and hubby and I had to leave the house when I was cooking it, the smell was pewtrid think things have changed by now though.

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    Maybe the smell was caused by the offal? I used to cook gruel with mince and offal for my dog and it stinks alright.

    Yes, I bought the Phuds online. I give a little bit less than what's on the box because she still gets dry food too. There's another brand called Vets All Natural, but I believe it is more expensive.

    And I've been thinking I might only give the Phuds every other day and the other days just give her grated or cooked veggies. I also add an egg and a can of tuna once a week. Though might buy some small raw fish at the markets and freeze those to give instead. My cat will love them too. She now eats the same as the dog but without the Phuds.

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    I'll look online now for Phuds, as I also feed dry food I'll start with a little bit of it and see how we go.

    I give Ruby a tin of sardines once a week, either in olive oil or spring water, she LOVES them, but I have to be on alert or she rushes up and gives me a big stinky boxer kiss with sardine breath ... I might start adding an egg too. I should get back into my daily vegie juice in my juicer and put aside the pulp for her. Ruby also loves fresh fruit, bananas, mango, pears and some raw vegies.

    We were with friends at the beach last week and everyone commented on how shiny Ruby's coat was and how soft her fur was, we've had her for 5 months and her fur wasn't in great condition when we got her, so I was very chuffed.

    As it's still around 40 degrees in Perth, I might look for some small raw fish this afternoon and try them frozen in her kong.

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    When you go looking for fish ask for bait fish..much cheaper and the dogs love it. I feed RAW and use it all the time. I give a lot of fruit and veggies to my dogs. Especially the one who can become a little overweight. it gives her bulk and she does not put on the weight. The two lean machines get the meat as chunks or mince and also offal....offal is not too nice to handle, but quite important. Mind you you are still feeding Black-hawk so you are getting some of the have to have's from that.

    Some butchers keep pet food out of refrigeration and you want to avoid them. And some like ours. keep it clean and in the same condition as the human grade. Also make sure if you buy designated petmince that no colouring and preservative has been added, because you might as well buy canned food if that has happened. And some pet places do do that.........

    Chicken mince if bought at the right clean place is really good, because it has the bone, offal and everything minced. Just check about the colouring/preservatives, they have to tell you if you ask.

    If your dogs coat has been improving, you must be doing something right
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    We buy our chicken mince in bulk $20 for $20kg from the local chicken place.

    It might be worth you talking to chicken shops ( we have one here that only sells chicken products) and see if they will get you some pet mince made up. Our local does it on order so you have to let them know 24 hours in advance and they just mince up the frames and leftover bits and box it for you. You pick it up directly from the factory. I know it's all safe because it's left over bits from the human-grade chicken cuts with no added nasties.

    It means you have to touch the mince but I just spend an hour after I get it bagging it all up into portions and put it in the freezer.

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    Thanks Newfsie and Crested_Love,

    I'm going to find myself a regular butcher, there's a supermarket a few suburbs from me and it's run by an Italian family and one of the sons told me their family also runs the butcher shop out the front (in a separate shop) which is on my way home from work. They are lovely people, shop is always clean and well stocked with fresh produce.

    We also have a chicken shop that's close, I'll go in and have a chat to them because I'd prefer to buy it fresh and then I can bag it like you say Crested_Love and freeze it. As the chicken mince I bought was 1kg frozen I defrosted it a bit then stuffed the kongs and put them in the freezer and have the rest in the fridge ready for feeding as I don't want to re-freeze. If I can buy a couple of kgs fresh I'll organise a production line to bag it and freeze it then we're set up I learnt this lesson with chicken necks, when I put the full bag in the freezer, that I am building up my arm muscles getting them pulled apart when I want to feed them to Ruby. Second time I bought them I knew to bag them first...

    I just went to the supermarket (gee not a lot of butchers in shopping centres close to where I live) and the pet mince ingredients just had roo and beef, but as Ruby is still young, I'd rather have something I know the ingredients of and leave the roo for later.

    Gee, I've never done so much research into food for any of my dogs before, but I had two little dogs before Ruby (one died at 14 and one at 9, both last year) and their tastes could change every other day, fussy little buggers, so I couldn't stock up on too much for them...

    Thanks again for all that helpful information

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    i've read too many stories about how pet mince is unregulated as far as preservatives go and one in particular(sulphur dioxide i think was the culprit) reduces the B1 levels in the meat(or reduces the dogs ability to absorb B1, can't remember exactly now) and that has bad effects in the long run. I buy all my mince from coles, $6 a kilo for 3 star human grade beef mince, at least that way i know what i'm getting.

    p.s i have zero knowledge of the brands you are talking about and they may be fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by mymatejack View Post
    i've read too many stories about how pet mince is unregulated as far as preservatives go and one in particular(sulphur dioxide i think was the culprit) reduces the B1 levels in the meat(or reduces the dogs ability to absorb B1, can't remember exactly now) and that has bad effects in the long run. I buy all my mince from coles, $6 a kilo for 3 star human grade beef mince, at least that way i know what i'm getting.

    p.s i have zero knowledge of the brands you are talking about and they may be fine
    I'm pretty sure that the brands I buy mentions it has no preservatives in it. But I'd still rather get it from a butcher so I can ask the right questions.

    The advantage of pet mince over human grade mince is that it usually contains offal and sometimes ground up bone as well, both good for dogs.

    Though I will sometimes buy human grade mince and offal from the supermarket and mix it up myself, but it tends to be more expensive.

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