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    I think my dog is constipated. His feces are often hard, not in one whole log (in a few 'balls'), pale cream, and goes white within a day. He does look like he strains to defecate and would walk a bit too in that position. Sometimes it's like milk chocolate colour. It's often dry and not moist like how I think it should be.

    I feed him a quarter of a whole chicken for a meal, but I'm now changing that to drumsticks as it visually looks like it has more meat. Not quite sure on that, and would like clarification on this. He also gets either mince beef or kangaroo mince and part of a chicken carcass as a meal, alternating with the chicken. Please someone tell me if this is enough meat content in comparison to bone.

    I also feed him 2 Tbls yoghurt, 2 Tbls pureed vegetables (slightly cooked pumpkin, carrot and brocolli) and 1tbls of crushed egg shells every day. Either fed in morning or night. I read that pumpkin helps constipation, but not much has changed. Fresh clean water is always available and changed twice a day.

    As for exercise (I read this helps bowel movement too), he gets 45 minute walk in the morning, 1 hour walk in the evening before dinner, and 30 minutes of fetch/tug every day.

    I don't know what more to do to get the healthy feces. I don't want him to go on much longer like this.

    EDIT: Forgot to add that he also gets the offal and fish once a week.
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    The white stuff is calcium, ie all the bones and egg shell.

    Have you tried raw carrots, or sweetcorn kernels, or brown rice (cooked), and some sardines in (olive) oil? Lots of fibre and lube. Not much nutritional value ie apart from the sardines (and I only feed half a tin per day - or she gets the runs!), so should help push things through.

    And maybe cut the chicken bones back to every second day - to give him a chance to clear his system out?

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    Hmm I read somewhere that dogs cannot break down the plant cell walls which is why I slightly cooked the vegetables. I feed him slightly cooked carrots, not raw. I've fed him corn before... he poops hot the corn kernels whole, so I didn't think there was much digestion of the corn.

    I'll need to give sardines a try. If I feed the sardines - half a tin/day like you, along with about 150g of raw fish, would this exceed necessary amounts of omega 3?

    I alternate between the chicken quarter and the mince+chicken bones every day. So now I think I'll just feed one day of chicken quarter, and another day of just mince, like you suggested.

    I'll give it a try tomorrow. Should I continue with the yoghurt, vege puree and egg shells?

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    Why so much eggshell?.......I think that could be too much. I would also feed sardines and oil. My dogs get a large sardine a day......And some oil. They get whole fish about twice a week. And also some offal (lambs heart, ox heart, liver) three times a week about 15% of the meat value. I blast or quick blanch my veggies,,,Same reason as you, to break it down, so that it is more absorbable.
    It might actually be good to feed your dog some marrow, to soften the stool.
    I might have mentioned it before, but I am a poop watcher.....Too dry = less bones on the day. Too loose+ more bones. Also if too dry i would add some oil and increase the fiber. Which in my case is cooked rice/oats/lupins/barley mix (with samll amount of meat). The positive of firm stools is that it helps the anal glands, but too firm can cause blockages and rectal damage. So you have to regulate the diet according to the stool. Hence I am a poop watcher.....you will find that is how mostly RAW feeders regulate their dogs diet.
    Some greens might also help. It is hard to teach diet adjustment, it is something you often learn as you go
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    I personally would not give chicken bones at all.
    As everyone else has said the sardines and veggies will help a lot.
    Good to hear that others also do "poop inspections",

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    I don't feed that much chicken, I also feed sardines in oil or put a bit of flaxseed oil in my dogs meal.

    I find minced lamb or lamb flaps one raw food that always gets my dogs going.

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    I'd cut all the bones and egg shells until you get some normal poo.

    The vegies - are just for flushing things through - not really for nutritional value. The dog will chew up a raw carrot - good for teeth, might get a tiny amount of vitamins and minerals but mostly it's soft fibre and should help crapping - a bit like all bran for humans (or horses), in fact the casserole I feed also has bran in it. Same deal with the corn and brown rice, it's all just filler designed to get his system moving comfortably ie work straight through and hopefully push through any stuff that's clogging the system up.

    Cooking veg destroys a fair bit of the nutritional value anyway. So I'm not sure it would make a whole lot of difference to the overal nutrition if they eat it raw and it goes straight through or you cook it a bit but there's less valuable stuff to absorb anyway.

    I do feed cooked carrot, pumpkin and sweet potato in the casserole but it's the mince and calcium powder that most of the nutrition is at. There are some trace elements in the veg that are useful. Also in grass that the dog might eat too.

    I've go no idea what the "necessary" amount of omega 3 is. I would be concerned about raw fish bones in the fresh stuff, but as long as you're confident about the fillet, I wouldn't bother to feed that and sardines, one or the other. You could give a tablespoonful of olive oil with the raw (instead of the sardines) for "lube" and the good things in olive oil.

    I don't generally feed bones at all because they all come back to haunt us in extremely unpleasant ways. Hence the calcium powder. And I can't imagine egg shells being all that much fun to poop either.

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    Memory dredging up from the depths.

    I am pretty sure my vet suggested some parafin oil in shadows food when he was constipated at times.

    I also may be very wrong so if you want to try this please clear it with your vet.

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    I think cut out the bones/egg shells entirely and the problem will solve itself in a few days. Then slowly reintroduce the bones and do as newfie suggests and poop watch. Personally i only feed jack bones every few days and if he shows signs of constipation i just cut them out until he's sorted.

    People feeding their dogs raw fish, are the bones a problem? I've been too scared to feed jack fish

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    Quote Originally Posted by mymatejack View Post
    I think cut out the bones/egg shells entirely and the problem will solve itself in a few days. Then slowly reintroduce the bones and do as newfie suggests and poop watch. Personally i only feed jack bones every few days and if he shows signs of constipation i just cut them out until he's sorted.

    People feeding their dogs raw fish, are the bones a problem? I've been too scared to feed jack fish
    I do, but I tell people that mine have done it forever.......And only Raw and only small fish (bait, herring/sardine size) The very large fish is already filleted, but I never check for bones. Katy catches her own trout and eats them whole, every little bit. She was also given fish by some beach fishermen, because she sat nicely and asked. She ate the whole fish then and there. She is obsessed by fish
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