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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalacreek View Post
    With the new age vaccines you shouldnt need 3. My pups have a vaccination at 8 and 12 weeks, or 7 and 11 weeks. I wait about 7-10 days after the last vacc and off we go.

    I personally dont know any vets that still give 3 vaccinations over here and I know a lot of vets, my sister being one herself. I dont know anyone who still gives their dogs 3 vaccinations. I havent done the 3 vaccination thing now for many years.
    my pup had 3 vaccinations. my vet told me it is all based on when they were given their first vaccination. in the case of my dog, i think he had his first vacc. at 6 weeks, then 10 and 13 weeks i think. i found it weird because we went to a different vet for his 3rd vacc. and she didnt even need to look at his health card to see what what vaccinations he had all ready had!!

    but then another vet told me that the 3rd vaccination was protecting against kennel cough..not necessary unless you plan on putting your dog in a kennel.

    not sure how 2 trained vets can have such different opinions... :S

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    I only had two vaccinations as well but will need a third 'booster' when shes 12 months. I dont know about the kennel cough thing I thought that was a whole seperate vaccination and nothing to do with parvo and such. I know it used to be a set of three with a totally seperate vaccination for kennel cough and now I think its a set of two with again a totally seperate vacc for kennel cough.

    Saying this though my sisters dog was vaccinated against kennel cough but became a carrier instead and has now infected all our families dogs with it. Poor Kaida's got runny nose, runny eyes, a raspy cough.. the whole works. Just saying that some vaccines work better on some dogs then others!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiff-689 View Post
    my pup had 3 vaccinations. my vet told me it is all based on when they were given their first vaccination. in the case of my dog, i think he had his first vacc. at 6 weeks, then 10 and 13 weeks i think. i found it weird because we went to a different vet for his 3rd vacc. and she didnt even need to look at his health card to see what what vaccinations he had all ready had!!

    but then another vet told me that the 3rd vaccination was protecting against kennel cough..not necessary unless you plan on putting your dog in a kennel.
    not sure how 2 trained vets can have such different opinions... :S
    Wrong. "Kennel cough" is called this because of its virulence. It is easily and quickly passed on to other dogs who are in close contact with each other. It is common in kennel situations and any time dogs are toegher. This might be down at the local dog park, or at a dog show even.

    Kennel cough is an upper respiratory condition that is made up of several diffeent viruses and bacteria.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalacreek View Post
    With the new age vaccines you shouldnt need 3. My pups have a vaccination at 8 and 12 weeks, or 7 and 11 weeks. I wait about 7-10 days after the last vacc and off we go.

    I personally dont know any vets that still give 3 vaccinations over here and I know a lot of vets, my sister being one herself. I dont know anyone who still gives their dogs 3 vaccinations. I havent done the 3 vaccination thing now for many years.
    The AVA recommend up to 3 by the time the dog is 12 weeks of age. If what you say is true, then perhaps WA Vets don't follow the advice from their representative body very well.

    http://www.asava.com.au/LinkClick.as...w%3D&tabid=138
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    Also my other sister has the worst luck with dogs and vets. Took her 6 month old purebred Rottie in with what the vet said was a limp. Turned out to be arthritis so bad he lost the feeling in three of his legs and had to be put down before a year.
    Then had a second Rottie puppy who she took in (to a different vet) with what she was told was a spider bite, so just given antibiotics... Turned out to be a massive internal cancer that had to be removed at 16 weeks.. These are from two different vets and just kinda prove that vets cant pick up everything or the possibility of misdiagnosis is quite strong (or she just has bad luck).
    She has also just picked up a heart murmour in him which both vets missed.. he is now on medication for the rest of his life and as its both his atriums could have a heart attack at any time!.. sigh

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    Yes my dogs never been in a kennel and can vouch that she has kennel cough.. Apparently its going around Perth atm, spreading through some vets and dog parks.

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    I just had a look over Buckley's health card. He had his vaccinations at 7, 11 and 15 weeks. I'm totally at a loss as to why some vets give 2 and some 3 :S Anne, it was the vet that told me that kennel cough is only picked up in kennels. Really wish i could find a decent vet around my area!!

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    Well I will go out a limb here............

    I believe socialization is more important then anything.

    Not throwing the puppy out with a heap of sickly dogs, but I would definitely find a group of dogs that are healthy and well socialized to help you in getting your puppy socialized.

    I have had many puppies and I like my dogs to be friendly and happy with other people and dogs. So I have taken all my pups out and about from 8 weeks on. I have been lucky in that all the dogs at our kennel Club are vaccinated. So she had a godd 8-16 weeks of getting used to lots of people and dogs. I do not mean rough and tumble play with every dog, but she is happy meeting dogs in a polite manner.

    Even my breeder allows other dogs from her Kennel to meet her puppies from 4 weeks on. It is the more "new" way, to help dogs be less anxious and aggressive in the future. A dog is just as much at risk from being PTS for being aggressive then getting sick in a generally clean environment meeting other healthy dogs and lots of people of different ages and shapes.

    Those first weeks are so important and should not be wasted in a backyard. All the dogs I have had from puppy have been extremely well adjusted and non-aggressive fearless and happy.

    My Parents used to Breed GSD's, for the Police force and RAAF, and my Dad always made a huge effort in getting his dogs to meet a lot of people and dogs in their early puppy-hood. And it was definitely not a popular way in those early days, thankfully a lot of people have changed now.

    So I would be the person who would mot listen to your vet and go with Socialising the puppy lots.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiff-689 View Post
    I just had a look over Buckley's health card. He had his vaccinations at 7, 11 and 15 weeks. I'm totally at a loss as to why some vets give 2 and some 3 :S Anne, it was the vet that told me that kennel cough is only picked up in kennels. Really wish i could find a decent vet around my area!!
    It depends on what age you first bring your puppy in. Some vaccines can't be given to puppies under 8 weeks. Usually a c3 would be given to these puppies and then two c5s. It also depends on the brand of vaccines the vet uses to how many are needed. Not sure why your vet would even say 'kennel cough' as it is referred to as 'canine cough' and it's like saying people only get the flu at the doctors surgery. Bit odd. What area are you in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne View Post
    The AVA recommend up to 3 by the time the dog is 12 weeks of age. If what you say is true, then perhaps WA Vets don't follow the advice from their representative body very well.

    http://www.asava.com.au/LinkClick.as...w%3D&tabid=138


    It is well accepted that only 2 vaccinations are required over here, it is accepted by the Canine association and their clubs and all kennels that check vaccination certificates. I dont know anyone who has vaccinated their dog in this way ever come down with parvo even during parvo outbreaks among unvaccinated dogs which is common in areas where people cant afford vaccinations.

    I lived right close to one of these areas and none of my dogs ever came down with parvo even after using the same open spaces.

    Here is the current recommendations as of 2010 off the APVMA of Australia, over here it has been determined from very wide collective experience by most vets that 2 well timed vaccinations at 8 and 12 weeks are sufficient in WA. Why over vaccinate if you dont have to?

    Current vaccination programs using core vaccines
    Vaccination regimes for dogs and cats have developed from years of research and practical experience by veterinarians in industry and in practice.

    Current vaccination programs for dogs and cats recognise that most pups and kittens are protected by maternally derived antibodies (MDA) up to about 8 to 12 weeks of age. For strong immunity it is important that the animal receives at least two fully effective vaccinations. MDA can interfere with vaccination, but it is advisable to vaccinate young animals as soon as MDA levels decline. Because the decline in the level of MDA varies between animals, three initial vaccinations are generally recommended, timed to ensure that the animal is fully protected.

    A typical puppy/kitten program consists of an initial primary course of vaccination followed by a 12-month booster to ensure ongoing immunity.

    Subsequent revaccinations are given at intervals of 12 months, or longer if this is consistent with the veterinarian’s recommendations and the owner’s wishes. There are several registered products on the market that have been formulated specifically as longer-term vaccines and proven to provide at least 3 years protection. Apart from these, all other dog vaccines, and all cat vaccines, have been registered with data that support only a 12-month vaccination interval.


    Here is a common protocol from the VetWest clinics http://www.vetwest.com.au/caring-for-your-dog-1

    When should I vaccinate?
    At 6-8 weeks of age puppies should receive their first vaccination; this is temporary and needs to be followed up with another one at 12 weeks. After the 12 week vaccination you can then take your puppy out in public areas.
    Last edited by Kalacreek; 06-17-2011 at 01:03 AM.

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