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    hello.. i've not been here for the longest time.. but i have an issue the vet was useless with, so here i am to ask about my poor little dog, who has a bad itch and what looks like dandruff.

    she's a 10-11 year old chihuahua/miniature fox terrier cross, we have not had her for long, we took her from a rescue group a few months ago. she was ok for a while, then we changed shampoo, and she started chewing on herself - badly. i took her to the vet, and the vet recommended Dermoveen oatmeal and aloe vera shampoo and conditioner, and also an omega rich oil to put on her food. she said if no change in two weeks, then it's cortisone treatments that might harm her pancreas, especially as she is an older dog. (!!)

    so naturally, i do not want to pump my little girl with cortisone shots, altho maybe a cream might stop the itch? i have been using Stopsitch (tea tree water) which helps a bit, i no longer see clumps of her hair on the floor, but she is still itchy.

    i have been bathing her weekly, and leaving the conditioner on her, not rinsing it off... and of course, a full pump of the oil on her food once a day. it's not helping, she still has a lot of dry skin flaking off when i brush her, and it's obvious she is still itchy.

    i might add, we have been using Frontline spray, there are two dogs here, two cats and two humans, with only The Rube scratching, so i doubt it's fleas, or any other insect infestation, or more of us would be itchy? i really think it started with the different shampoo (Fidos everyday).

    i do not know what to do to help my little girl.... any suggestions please?

    oops.. it's actually Dermcare Aloveen shampoo and conditioner..

    i have been reading other posts on this too.. but nothing has popped for me yet.. there was a mention of a grass allergy and also allergy to agapanthus, i am allergic to agapanthus sap myself.. i wonder.....
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    Hi Zen

    Excellent subject line and I see you had a go at finding the answer on the forum already - good job.

    Weekly bathing is going to make the dog's skin worse. It rips all the oils off and ruins the dog coat natural balances. I suggest cutting back to once a month tops. You can still rinse off with water if she rolls in something stinky.

    A rescue dog may have a bunch of skin conditions that cause this, tho you've been to the vet who ought to notice. Maybe a skin scraping test is needed if it doesn't clear up soon (10 days to a fortnight of no washing).

    I use johnsons' 2in1 baby shampoo and conditioner no more tears - because I don't want my dog to get hurt eyes from shampoo... and I figure if its safe for baby skin, its got to be ok for dog skin (although that's just me, not science). The alloveen oatmeal shampoo is supposed to be good too.

    I would not leave conditioner on the dog either, unless the instructions suggest this. It might be good for the fur but I'm guessing, not so good for the skin.

    I use aloe vera cactus - I get the plant from a garden shop (one time), and then I get a piece of the leaf and split it length wise and wipe the goo on the itchy spots. Usually my dog's tummy.

    You may also want to check your garden for dog itching plants like wandering dew - a shiny leaved ground cover, and if she spends a lot of time on the lawn, you need to make sure there's no itchy weed plants in there either like burrs, or some dandilion or daisy type plants, cape weed - a yellow daisy is really bad.

    I don't think frontline causes any problems - though I used the spot on. I use revolution spot on now. Some dogs might be allergic and you might want to get the one that covers mites, scabies or mange. Just in case. (skin scraping test would tell you for sure but $$).

    For now, cut washing back to once a month. Let nature do its job.

    If you can't stand the smell, maybe try a spray of mint tea. Or put some lavendar flowers in her bed.

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    thank you for your response.. and so fast!

    the smell.. i have to say this little dog smells bad.. really bad. almost straight after bathing, she smells as if we have not washed her for months. as she sleeps next to the bed, or on it, and is always close to me, the smell will be an issue. we also wash the other little dog weekly too, and he is ok, no skin issues, no itch, his coat always looks shiny, and feels good. they both love the beach, and the water, but this makes the smell worse i think.

    the conditioner can be left on, or rinsed off, i left it on hoping it might help, but it hasn't, so i will rinse it off from now on.

    i saw in a post here, someone used head and shoulders conditioner on her dog, to good effect. has anyone else done this? would it be worth trying? i think that's a great idea, using baby shampoo! i might go for that, i worry about the dogs getting shampoo in their eyes too.

    i checked for wandering jew, i knew that was a no no, and i took some out when our first dog came to live here, it had not returned. i wonder about the grass, she loves rolling in it... but there are no yellow daisies or anything like that out there.

    i wonder about Frontline, i might not use it on her for a bit - i had a cat once who started removing his fur, and it turned out to be the Frontline spot on.

    btw.. why did the word -dandruff- end up almost invisible in my first post?

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    If you did a forum search on the word "dandruff", it will "highlight" as white or light grey eg it will practically disappear. Will only be on your computer, the rest of us won't notice. It might sort itself if you close the browser and open it or do a search on different word. Maybe we should tell Morgan the forum owner to put on his list of things that might need changing eg the default search word highlight colours.

    It's pretty tough the dog gets stinky so quickly. What kind of smell is it? - could be glands eg the anal glands need emptying. That's a kind of old rotting fish combined with unwashed underpants worn many times combined with rotten eggs smell. Vet should be able to help with that one. I know some people like to do it themselves. And once you start doing this, it needs to be done regularily ie manually doing the anal glands stuffs them up so they always need doing manually...unless you get them removed which would suck.

    Other things that cause skin allergies which vary from dog to dog, could be insects, or diet related. My dog loves the beach too. I actually think the salt water is good for her skin, and another friend who has a staffy with sensitive skin swears by it. I only rinse her off after a beach run.

    I'd be really tempted to bath her in wool wash with eucalyptus oil, that and the dandruff shampoo must be kept away from their eyes. And I've got no idea if that will cause more problems - I've never bathed a dog with either. Some dandruff shampoo is gentler than others, but personally - I think you want to be finding and sorting the cause not treating the symptoms eg the dandruff.
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    my vet reccomended that i use the no more tears johnsons baby shampoo for tessa, before that i was using the Aloveen shampoo but he said that the johnsons would be gentler on her skin. he said if i have to use other shampoos that i should dilute them as they could make irritation worst.
    i personally wouldnt use anti-dandruff shampoo too many chemicals

    she has alot of skin issues - and smelly issues, i actually just patted her and need to go wash my hands poor girl

    i find adding things to hide the smell only make the smell worse.

    neotopic H was given to me by the vet but i think you can buy over counter. cortisone/ anti inflammatory cream which is good.

    good luck,
    i know how bad tessa gets when her itchys are bad.

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    highlight colour hey.. i should have thought of that.

    what kind of smell? um.. i asked my husband as well on this, and we both agree, she smells like dog, but dog multiplied by 1000, and considering her diminutive size, this makes the smell awesome to behold. but she has always smelled like this. the vet did attend to her anal glands, much to the Rube's dismay apparently. did nothing to change her smell however. we have taken to scented soy candles since her arrival.

    yes, i agree, i need to find the cause. i really thought it started with the change in shampoo, but why has it lasted so long? this may have been coincidental, and nothing to do with the shampoo at all.


    and thank you tessalyon for the luck, yes, i will go buy some baby shampoo. and go back to the vet too i guess, something has to help her without harming her.

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    Just to add. When Tessa is really bad they will give her a course of antibiotics and a short term of cortisone. Explain your reluctance to use cortisone and they will only use it if they have to. Tessa is 15 so I no ur concerns but I know that sometimes she is so uncomfortable that there is no other option. Just make sure with steroids that you reduce the dose before you stop more risks develop when it's stopped suddenly

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    thanks tessalyon, sounds like you live with much the same dog as we have here. poor Ruby was so itchy early this morning, i was up before 6am to drench her in Stopsitch again, which is also anti-bacterial.

    the two weeks are up early next week, so back to the vet i will go.

    i guess i was really hoping for someone to say 'use this! it will work immediately and your dog will stop scratching!' - yes, i know, but one can hope....
    Last edited by zen; 03-12-2011 at 09:33 AM.

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    i would definately get neotopic h (may be spelt wrong)

    i use it on tessa prob twice a week, i have also used it on my rotti harley when he had an illergic reaction on xmas day and we wernt able to go to a vet and a few days later when we got to a vet he said its good for any inflammatory skin condition and alot more mild than the cortisone tablets.
    i know you can just walk upto the counter at vet and get it and im pretty sure you could get it at a big pet shop like pet stock.

    (also not made for dogs but i know when tessa was younger mum would use human - clozole- antifungle cream on her) test on a small area before you use cos its not made for dogs but it did seem to sooth her before but that waas prob 10 - 12 years ago.)

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    what do you use to clean your floors, tessa would react badly to anything strong that went on them,
    now i use diluted eucalyptus
    helps a bit

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