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    ive been feeding my j/r terrier tin dog food for almost 1 year now and i just went down to the local pet store and got some tapeworm treatment chews for her which cost me $46for a 7 month supply (1 per month). she also sold me a 15kg bag of dry food called HILLS SCIENCE DIET FITNESS for 1-6 yo dogs. she said that's all i need to give her along with some bones occasionally the bag was $109 (15% off) and ive got some loyalty thing if i buy 10 bags i get the 11th bag free.

    just want to know some thoughts about this method and really some good advice would be great, kind regards glenn and( miley dog)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tresurehunt View Post
    ive been feeding my j/r terrier tin dog food for almost 1 year now and i just went down to the local pet store and got some tapeworm treatment chews for her which cost me $46for a 7 month supply (1 per month). she also sold me a 15kg bag of dry food called HILLS SCIENCE DIET FITNESS for 1-6 yo dogs. she said that's all i need to give her along with some bones occasionally the bag was $109 (15% off) and ive got some loyalty thing if i buy 10 bags i get the 11th bag free.

    just want to know some thoughts about this method and really some good advice would be great, kind regards glenn and( miley dog)
    Hi glen,

    Your going to get many different opinions on this topic. Personally I wouldnt feed Science Diet to ANY animal, Ive heard more than a few bad things about it. Plus for the price you could get something a lot more nutritional for Miley.

    I feed a mixture of raw and dry. I introduced the raw food because I have never ending issues with Bailey's weight fluctuating. She gets 3 cups of dry food plus raw chicken mince, chicken necks, oatmeal and one raw egg a week (egg is another controversial subject). She gets this once in the morning and once at night. She also gets given pigs ears, roo bones and random treats throughout the week.

    Before introducing the raw into her diet Bailey was only on dry food. She gets Supercoat.

    There are many different brands out there, I think the main thing is to look into no preservatives, minimum salt, how much crude fat, calcium etc. Which can all get a bit mind boggling!

    At the end of the day it really all depends on what suits your dog best! Some dogs are ok with chum, home brand etc. Some aren't. I much prefer dry food over wet food, much better for teeth in my opinion.

    Oh and please just remember not to change Miley's food over instantly. You need to do it gradually i.e. 3/4 cup of old food mixed with 1/4 cup of new food for a couple of days. Then reduce it down to half/half etc etc. Until eventually she is only eating the new food. This will help give her tummy time to settle.

    Well I wish you the best of luck in your search. Hopefully you'll find something perfect for Miley

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    Quote Originally Posted by tresurehunt View Post
    ive been feeding my j/r terrier tin dog food for almost 1 year now and i just went down to the local pet store and got some tapeworm treatment chews for her which cost me $46for a 7 month supply (1 per month). she also sold me a 15kg bag of dry food called HILLS SCIENCE DIET FITNESS for 1-6 yo dogs. she said that's all i need to give her along with some bones occasionally the bag was $109 (15% off) and ive got some loyalty thing if i buy 10 bags i get the 11th bag free.

    just want to know some thoughts about this method and really some good advice would be great, kind regards glenn and( miley dog)
    Hi Glenn (and Miley!),

    Before I say anything, I have to add this disclaimer: I am a raw food convert. OK, I am also quite the critic about Science Diet in particular. A few reasons; 1) From memory, if you look at the ingredients the second (and maybe third...) ingredients are corn or cereal or grain. From my understanding of the books I've read re: digestion and nutritional needs, these are fillers and don't really provide any nutritional benefit to the dog, 2) Hills Science Diet in particular seems to be favoured by vets who get kickbacks from selling it. (Another disclaimer: NOT ALL VETS DO THIS... JUST MY EXPERIENCE) and 3) (not Hills specific) Kibble type foods have been linked with some increase in cancers in dogs due to the production methods. I could type all day about this, but if you google search BARF (Biologically Appropriate Raw Food) diets, you will find links and research about the problems with kibbles (and many other pre-produced foods so be prepared to spend some time reading!!).

    That said, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater :-) because I think you can incorporate kibble into a balanced diet. My preference is Eagle Pack Hollistic because the main ingreadients are meat meal first, then meat second, then supplements and some grain/ cereal. I think there has to be some level of grain/ cereal to make a kibble. Apart from Eagle Pack, many of the Super Premium kibbles are ok. Just read the labels, I guess, to learn and educate yourself. And see which foods suit your dog best.

    Raw bones are EXCELLENT, but, always make sure you dog knows how to eat a bone. What I mean is, the dog has to know how to crunch it up and not just swallow it whole because this can be quite dangerous. If your puppy has not come from a raw food background/ breeder, you may have to spend some time training your pup (dog?) how to eat bones properly. The lady I bought one of my dogs from also recommends with young dogs to stay away from weight bearning bones (like legs) from large animals as they can be too much for young teeth.

    You can also buy pre-packaged BARF brand food, but many (myself included) find it is too expensive a proposition. I think that many folks prefer dry food to wet due to dry being better for teetch, but if you are feeding bones regularly, the teeth issue becomes somewhat moot because the bones are cleaning them anyway and you can choose kibble, dry or whatever takes your fancy.

    My dogs' diet is a bit complex, basically because I am a nut who seems to like having the fridge smell like blood, but they get:
    * RMB's (Raw Meaty Bones)- chicken legs, wings, frames, thighs, beef tail, roo tail, lamb shank, turkey wing, drumstick, raw fish...
    * Chicken frame mince
    * Offal
    * Raw Egg
    * Vets All Natural Complete Mix
    * Supplements- Omega Oil, Pro-Biotic supplement, Mineral supplement, dessicated seaweed
    * Eagle Pack Hollistic Kibble
    * Occasionally pre-packed BARF roll, or Ecopet Roll (for the slack nights)

    and all of this is on a weekly schedule with amounts at about 3-4% of bodyweight.

    Hopefully that helps!

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    I wouldn't feed Hills Science diet dry or tinned either.

    Just read the ingredients for yourself and you will see it isn't any better than the supermarket brands, it just has better marketing ie it pays vets commissions on sales. Won't kill the dog so many vets are happy to sell it.

    I feed Nutro Natural choice made by Mars in Australia. It's slightly better quality than Advance (made by same people) in terms of what ingredients they put in. I'd feed Supercoat (even though I don't like Nestles - owner of that brand), before I fed Hills. Nestles also own Purina 1 - and stuffed if I can tell the difference.

    These two american sites will help you work out what to look for on the ingredients list.
    The Dog Food Project - How does your Dog Food Brand compare?

    Dog Food Analysis - Reviews of kibble

    Artemis rates well on those websites, Nutro and Hills do not. But then again the ingredients here are slightly different to in the USA. Innovo rates well but it's sold exclusively in Australia by a chain that buys and sells puppies from puppy mills. So we can't support them either.

    Note - I've never shopped at the bowhouse or pets paradise.
    Dog's Dry Food - Bowhouse Online Store - Australia's Award-Winning Store for All Your Dog and Cat

    Both analysis websites will give you a clue to what's good and what isn't on an ingredient list. As far as Hills go, you can get the same quality much cheaper, or you can spend the same money and get the same amount of much better quality food.

    And it's definitely worth buying in bulk for dry food.

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    Ok so I dont have a several paragraph answer but IMHO Dr Harry Supercoat is the best... I feed my pups the puppy and even one of my biggr dogs that is having weight issues atm. I also feed on the occasion chicken wings, meaty bones, chicken hearts etc etc

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    I feed pretty much the same as Villian&Flirt.
    I have a large breed dog and a small breed dog.
    Having said that it's what your dog does best on. Being a small breed dog I would get a box of BARF patties(around $22-25) and a smaller bag of dry and alternate between dry and BARF.
    I think the large bag of dog food is too much for a small breed dog.
    I think most premium brand dry dog food can be available on a loyalty program.
    You can get out of it much cheaper with a better quality food.
    Apart from bones etc you can add sardines, yogurt veggie slops, fruit and cottage cheese.
    If you want to be sneaky and you have only had the food for a week and it's still all in the bag and you have a receipt you can get your money back. Premium brand foods are money back guaranteed if your dog doesn't like it.

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    so do i persevere with the dry mix i bought and incorporate something else with it ?
    i dont want to get to technical and not have to do to much worrying about feeding her as ive also got 4 children ,haha. i just thought giving her ALDI dog food all the time is going to harm her .

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    You'll be better off spending less money, finding a good kibble like Supercoat that doesn't have colours and stuff in it like the Aldi one probably does (plus check the ingredients list - meat should always be the first ingredient), and get some pet grade mince from your butcher or petshop.

    You'll spend less, she'll love it and stay healthy, everybody wins!! I use hot water, mix the mince in with the kibble and they scoff the lot.

    Keep an eye on the deli section when you go in the supermarket, if chicken wings or necks (even drumsticks) come on special grab her some - they'll keep her teeth clean and breath fresh.

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    It's up to you.
    If you can afford $109 for Hills I would opt for the Eagle Pack Hollistic 7.5 kg for about $70.
    You will feed less than the Hills and Supercoat.
    Otherwise Supercoat as mentioned Or Optimum from supermarket.
    Although I feed dry I don't believe in dry alone.

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    ive been told to give her 150 grams per day with 2 feeds,that's not a real lot of food imo ?

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