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    Hey everyone, my name's Trent, I'm 18 and live in QLD. Obviously I have dogs, lol. I wanted to ask a few questions if that's alright. OK, so I have a purebred maltese, my mother has a smithfield terrier x border collie and my grandmother has my maltese's brother. I also share ownership of a female dog with my GF, (who I live with), she is a black and white (no brown) purebred miniature foxy (short haired). So Queenie (my dog) and Milly (the foxy) live together with me and the Mrs, the other dogs are back with my mother.

    I'm into cars and motocross, and I sold a car last friday to fund some health care for Queenie. She had a lump which was quite small (I prayed for a cyst or a hernia) but it rapidly grew (prompting the sale of one of my cars). Today she had two lumps removed, one big one and one smaller one.

    I opted for a blood test before the operation, to make sure there's nothing out of the ordinary, as Queenie and Spud (her brother) are both 9. I used to own their mother molly, and had done since I was very little, but she died in 2008 aged 16.

    Her blood tests came back somewhat OK, although I was alarmed with her liver results. The test for her liver function (ALT) came back in the "high" section, albeit the lower side of high, it still is definitely in there and is alarming me.

    She had two teeth removed due to decay along with the lumps, and apparently the decay can affect the liver, I hope her results go back to normal, but to prevent anything worse happening, what diet can I change to? She gets dog rolls at the moment, which aren't exactly great. I plan to buy enough chicken necks to feed the dogs and get rid of the processed food all together. Anything I should add/subtract from her diet to help her liver?

    Apparently she has an enzyme in her liver. The person telling me this was the vets assistant and didn't give me a detailed explanation (I have to see the vet tomorrow) but as I understand, enzymes break things down. Am I right to worry that this is slowly breaking down her liver?

    Now, as I said, I am seeing the vet again tomorrow. I promised my grandmother I would take Spud to the vet for a teeth check. My grandmother is a pensioner and has been worrying about him for ages, but hasn't had the $$ to get him to a vet. I know Spuds mouth is in EXTREMELY poor condition, his front teeth and some side ones seem OK, but the back ones are gone and his gums are enflamed. Is it possible for a dog to eat with very little teeth? I am sure I'll have to pay for them to be pulled out, I don't mind doing this, though. He is in great condition in other areas and has a stunning coat and he's still extremely energetic. If I get his teeth fixed and everything else is OK, is there any reason to believe the detrimental effects his teeth had on him won't go away?

    So far I've spent around $750 on Queenie, this includes a consultation, the operation and the medication. The only thing I'm worried about is that the vet reccommends I bring her back for a tooth clean and possibly rip some more out. I'll be running out of money kind of quick if I have to spend $750 + on Spud. Oh well, you gotta do what you gotta do.

    Please don't knock me guys, I have probably described my dogs in a bad way, but they are a good weight, have good coats and are extremely happy animals, bar the few problems they have which are age associated.

    SO has anyone had dogs with poor liver function and managed to successfuly turn it around without the use of medication? (I'm in year 12, dog medication isn't exactly cheap).

    Thanks in advance everyone!

    Trent

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    I think your vet may recommend a Hills Prescription diet for your little one.
    Yes a dog can live and eat happily with little or no teeth. He will probably have a soft diet and he will probably be ok with chicken necks if you bash them up a bit.

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    All I can say, is for an 18 year old male, you are so tuned in.

    My JRT had 8 teeth removed a couple of years ago. 8. And im a vet nurse! No one things poorly of you. Majority of dogs will needs teeth removed at some stage of their life. No matter how well you care for them.
    Roly eats fine with basically no teeth. He takes a little longer, but he gets it down. Just a warning, on avergae it cost about $800.

    Im actually at work right this minute and meant to go and walk the dogs, but I'll get the rest of my reply ASAP(I think im on the desk today).
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    Don't worry,everything will goes well,good luck to you !Tomorrow is another day!

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    Hi everyone, sorry to revive an old thread, lol... Thank you for your previous comments, I did read them but couldn't remember my password so I was only a guest -.-

    So I've moved to Brisbane with my girlfriend for uni and we still have Queenie and Milly, it was a struggle finding a pet friendly place close to the city, let me tell you! Queenie's getting older now and unfortunately the lump has come back. I had a biopsy done late last year and the vet said it seemed benign but there's no way he could be sure until it was taken out and sent to a lab. Unfortunately Spud died late last year due to a snake bite, that was really horrible

    Anyway, I'm at uni at the moment and funds are really tight, so unfortunately I can't raise the thousand bucks I need to get Queenies new lump cut out, it's gaining in size steadily, it's about the size of a 50c piece now. I don't know what to do in that respect and it really sucks....

    I'm kind of worried about her weight at the moment. I'm wondering what I can do to put weight on her? She had a bag of Royal Canin that was supposed to promote weight gain and good dental health in dogs over 8, she's eaten the bag, although hasn't gained any weight and at $50 a bag, I can't afford it. I can barely afford rent, lol... Please don't flame me and say "you shouldn't have a dog if you can't afford it" because Queenie has been my dog since I was little and she was born, back then it wasn't my job to "afford" her, haha.

    I'm after some sort of diet that would help her put on weight in a healthy manner that I could make up once a week for a cheap price, keep it in the freezer and just defrost it, heat it up and give it to her. Anyone got any ideas?

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    Puppy food usually has a higher fat content so that could help put more weight on her.

    You shouldn't feel bad that you can't afford the surgery, it sucks that you can't but you are trying to help her in all the ways you can which is more than a lot of people will do!
    She's 11? now, which i personally think is great for any dog, even a dog who is compleatly healthy.

    Does the lump cause her any pain? If so you may want to discuss pain relief options with your vet.

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    G'day Trent. Try doing a search of the forum for 'Satin balls'. There's a lot of info on here about them and they help dogs put on weight. I really dont know much about them myself but it might be worth a look. The only thing i can add is try not to put to much weight on a older dog as her joins and back might not appreciate it.

    Other forum members might be able to tell you more about Satin balls and if they would be appropriate for your dog. Good luck with it mate.


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    Hiya, Satin Balls WILL put weight on your dog. Here's a recipe that makes 10 meals for a GSD. So that's about 30 meals for a maltese lol

    Satin Balls - Original Recipe



    10 pounds hamburger meat [the cheapest kind]
    1 lg. box of Total cereal
    1 lg. box oatmeal
    1 jar of wheat germ
    1 1/4 cup veg oil
    1 1/4 cup of unsulfured molasses
    10 raw eggs AND shells
    10 envelopes of unflavored gelatin
    pinch of salt

    Mix everything in your kitchen sink and devide into portions and freeze.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean View Post
    G'day Trent. Try doing a search of the forum for 'Satin balls'. There's a lot of info on here about them and they help dogs put on weight. I really dont know much about them myself but it might be worth a look. The only thing i can add is try not to put to much weight on a older dog as her joins and back might not appreciate it.

    Other forum members might be able to tell you more about Satin balls and if they would be appropriate for your dog. Good luck with it mate.
    Cheers mate, I'll look into it She is very thin, about 4kg, last year she was 4.6kg, I'd just like to put a bit more back on her and then maintain it if possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by bernie View Post
    Hiya, Satin Balls WILL put weight on your dog. Here's a recipe that makes 10 meals for a GSD. So that's about 30 meals for a maltese lol

    Satin Balls - Original Recipe



    10 pounds hamburger meat [the cheapest kind]
    1 lg. box of Total cereal
    1 lg. box oatmeal
    1 jar of wheat germ
    1 1/4 cup veg oil
    1 1/4 cup of unsulfured molasses
    10 raw eggs AND shells
    10 envelopes of unflavored gelatin
    pinch of salt

    Mix everything in your kitchen sink and devide into portions and freeze.
    Hey mate, thanks heaps for that. I might leave the salt out, as her mother was an epileptic and anything with lots of salt or sugar in it triggered a fit, Queenie has had the odd fit, so I don't want to make it any worse. Is it OK to feed this recipe every day?

    Quote Originally Posted by xx_sheena_xx View Post
    Puppy food usually has a higher fat content so that could help put more weight on her.

    You shouldn't feel bad that you can't afford the surgery, it sucks that you can't but you are trying to help her in all the ways you can which is more than a lot of people will do!
    She's 11? now, which i personally think is great for any dog, even a dog who is compleatly healthy.

    Does the lump cause her any pain? If so you may want to discuss pain relief options with your vet.
    I think pain relief might be stretching my budget, lol. Pumping drugs into her on a regular basis would also worry me because of her liver function results from 2010, I wouldn't really want to risk it. I try to avoid touching the lump, so I'm not sure how much pain or discomfort it is causing her. I know it's not my fault that I can't fix her up, I just wish I could, that's all

    Thanks for all the replies everyone.

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    satin balls are not a complete meal, they are a fat building supplement. Look into something like Vets All Natural and some pet mince for her main diet, then a satin ball near bed time to help her put on the weight. Conversely I find that soaking home brand minute oats until really soft and super sloppy as a meal with some of the mince/VAN can help with the weight. Feed her a few times a day if you can, smaller meals her digestion at that age probably will not be the best.

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