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    Tuesday night I found some big, brilliant lamb bones in the supermarket and gave him the largest (300-400g) that night.

    Wednesday morning he did his normal post-breakfast poo. Then another before I left for work at 9am, which is maybe a little earlier than usual, but not unusual in itself. My mum stayed home with him but as she was quite sick, he spent most of the day in the garage as she couldn't watch him. I'd thought he seemed off-colour in the morning and insisted she take him out at some point for a short play as I didn't want him to spend the whole day alone. She took him out for a bit at noon when he did yet another poo.

    I got home at 3ish to a foul smell - he'd pooed in his pen. He's never, ever had an accident in his pen before. Hell, he's only ever pooed inside once or twice quite early on when I just didn't open the door fast enough for him. He's extremely fastidious about where he defecates and gets quite anxious if you're not being quick enough letting him about, so of course, I was quite worried. It wasn't diarrhea - still quite firm. The issue seemed to be his ability to hold it in. It was also rather pale and whitish compared to his usual.

    Had to take a quick trip to the doctor later that afternoon and came home to yet another accident in his pen. Next morning, he got up for his normal 5:20ish toilet stop. Only a wee then. 20 minutes later, after a quick catnap, I went to give him a frozen kong and there's more poo in his pen.

    Bit unsure of the cause, given that, as luck would have it, there were quite a few new foods happening on Tuesday - he'd had a number of peas the day before, started on a new brand of treats, had never had a lamb bone that big and the spoon of chicken mince he'd had that morning may have been in the fridge a day too long. So yesterday I cut down his meals to basics. He had a very small amount of dry food for breakfast. Didn't get his usual Kong when I left for uni. Only got a very small soup bone for dinner. No more accidents. He's been completely fine today as well.

    God, I tend to ramble a lot on here. Kudos if you've made it this far!

    Anyhow, to get to my point, I just noticed that his poo has returned to it's normal colour this afternoon (didn't look to closely at the rest of today's attempts, to be honest, and I wasn't home for his afternoon toiletings yesterday), and it occured to me that perhaps it was the fault of the fattiness of the lamb, rather than the actual size?

    Obviously no one's going to be able to give a perfect answer over the internet, but does that sound like a reasonable assumption - will excess fat affect his stools that way? As it is, I'll be slowly introducing the above suspected foods over the next few days - he has a much smaller and very lean lamb bone for dinner so we'll see how he is tomorrow. Then start back with the new treats and eventually get back to giving him peas. ...peas don't have some laxative effect on dogs that I've missed, do they?

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    Whenever a dog has an upset stomach at the kennels we would rinse the chicken mince to make sure it had no fat as that was what we had been advised to do.

    It sounds like it might of been an overload of too many new things at once??

    Like us if they eat something that upsets the stomach they can feel off, stomach cramps etc and need to go more often or right NOW.

    Just so long as it's not re-occurring and passes after a day or two then I'd say you can put it down to diet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mouseandchicken View Post
    Like us if they eat something that upsets the stomach they can feel off, stomach cramps etc and need to go more often or right NOW.
    There we go. Thankyou for simplifying it in a way that my poor head couldn't He's had a vet-free existence (aside from his jabs) thus far and I'm very keen on keeping it so, and thus spent Wednesday and Thursday overthinking this to death (refer to enormous OP ).

    The peas weren't entirely new - he has had them before but he'd had a fair quantity on Monday as I was hiding them for him. If I had to, I'd tend to think it the fault of the possibly off mince mixed with the huge amount of lamb - it was just the whitish colour (which has now returned to normal) that suddenly got me thinking that perhaps there was just too much fat? Interesting to hear about washing the mince to rid it of fat.

    Several contributing factors, it would seem. Thanks for your input

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    Glad he seems to be back to normal. I'm really wary of store bought treats now. My Poodle (toy) does have a sensitive stomach, but we have no trouble at all since we changed him to chicken in the morning with Royal Canin intestinal biscuits at night. But i got the bright idea of giving him a Pedigree small dog biscuit designed to help with teeth cleaning the other day. He only ate 3/4 of one biscuit/bone. That night he didn't sleep all night, needless to say nor did we. Everytime he laid town, he'd twitch, seemed only comfortable if he was walking. He was in real pain. First thing next morning off to the Vet $146 and 2 Injections ,pain gone, he pooped 6 hours later, his poop was disgusting, grey and gooey. Next day back to his old self.So from here on in, no store bought treats for us. We'll stick to chicken and RC. Felt really bad, i'd put him through that.

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    I've always been recommended to make changes to a dog's diet slowly. Sure the dogs that live on garbage dumps don't get that luxury but you don't have them inside your house either.

    So when I change dry food brand - I change over 1/4 serve at a time.

    So sounds like Tuesday night and the day before was way over doing it.

    I cannot feed lamb bones to my dog at all because she chomps them into sharp splinters which cause considerable pain at both ends, and we end up with vomit and diarrhea. It makes no difference that they're raw. I might get away with giving her a meaty marrow bone (beef), so long as I take it away when she starts chomping on it.

    For her teeth - I give her carrots, or beef chips (small rawhide). Neither of those make sharp painful splinters. She's also fine with sticks, the splinters from those seem softer than bone splinters. Some dogs can have major problems with sticks too.

    So I'm wondering what happened to that lamb bone, and were there splinters in the poo?

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    Peas make them "gassy" so be careful there. Not saying no, just be aware... with the faeces if they were pale looking then that is probably the fat thing. Maybe too much too quick, I would think the peas more likely to cause diarrhoea.
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    The whitish stuff could be the excess fat that's been eliminated, but like others I think it's more a case of too much too soon!

    As for the peas - well, I think Soverencraft/Top Dog put it nicely..."gassy"...have a think about what happens to us hoomans if we eat a lot of peas........;-)

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