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    Hi,

    About two weeks ago we went on a picnic and took our 14month old pomeranian, Holly, with us. She had a ball and came home very tired, but otherwise fine - she had very 'physical' day running and swimming with us. the next morning she was limping on her front right paw. She would let us touch the leg and paw and move it so we monitored her, no walks for the day and decided if it was worse or not better the next day we'd take her to the vet. The next day she was fine. Three evenings ago she came up the back steps, after I was grooming her outside, and walked into the house lame on her back right leg. I held her and gently massaged the leg and she was fine, yesterday afternoon she started to limp on the back left leg. I picked her up and massaged it gently and she walked off fine. This morning she limped on her back right leg and we massaged it and she walked just fine.

    I have to admit I'm wondering about this? Luxating Patella comes to mind? or could this be attention seeking? Any ideas? we are going for vaccinations this coming weekend and will, if nothing urgent occurs before then, bring it up with our vet. When Holly came to live with us we took her to our vet who did check her legs and did say that they were fine...but still I have to wonder.

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    Further to this...today she's lifting the back right leg, we massage it, then she's okay and puts it back down and walks off just fine...she's done this about 8 times today. Is this the pattern for Luxating Patella? does the knee dislocate and then re-locate (so to speak) that easily until it no longer re-locates?

    Anyone know? or have any suggestions? By the way she doesn't indicate that she's in any pain and happily lets me massage it. The last time today she was leaning into me heavily while I massaged her but she never flinches or tries to pull away or complains.

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    maybe it's Panosteitis, although it mainly affects large young dogs can occur in small dogs too.
    Panosteitis in Young Dogs
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    Thanks for responding.

    We've been to the vet...it's luxating patella. I'm currently searching for an orthopedic veterinarian on the Central Coast NSW (with no success at this stage). Our vet wants us to wait, I'm looking for a second opinion at this stage.

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    Hi Shadowmum,

    I have just stumbled upon your post and am sorry to hear Holly has luxating patella's.

    Just wondering what grade you were given for Holly's luxating patella? Usually you will get a grade from 1-5.

    Holly's symptoms seem to be quite marked and surgery is her best option.

    I fostered a little poodle x malt named Buzz who had luxating patella's in both back legs. He was graded with a 4 for one leg and a 3 for the other.

    Surgery was a great success and he is now in a loving home and running like the wind.

    I wish you luck in your journey....Ask lot's of questions and learn as much as you can.

    There are different opinions on recovery for patella surgey. Some vets prefer to confine the dog to limit movement, though my orthopedic specialist likes to get them up and about after 24 hours.

    Let us know how you go

    B

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    Thanks for replying.

    Holly isn't doing too well. We've seen two vets - got a second opinion. The first, our usual vet, wanted us to leave it and let her live with it. The second said that her right knee needs operating on and her left isn't far behind. She said there were three grades (?) grade three being the worst and she rated Holly's right knee as a grade three and her left grade two.

    There was considerable discrepancies between what the two vets have said and between cost - $600 (our vet) to $1200 (the second opinion) per each knee. Our vet didn't advise surgery - the other said it was essential. Based up Holly's pain, lack of desire in moving, lack of eating, snapping at anyone who is coming near her - We're calling the second vet tomorrow to see how quickly we can organise the operation. I was trying to find an orthapaedic vet and chiropodist (spelling?) but haven't had any luck in the our area (Central Coast NSW) or in outer areas either, but I think this is serious enough to get some immediate action - she isn't able to walk without pulling the right leg all the way up and she is in distress.

    Thanks again for responding. I'll let you know how it all goes.

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    Gosh i am sorry SM i understand what an ordeal this is for you all.

    Quality of life for Holly is what needs to be focused upon at this point.

    If i were in your position i would be headed for surgery in both legs at the same time with an experienced surgeon.

    Patella surgery involves most often surgicaly increasing the depth of the "groove" in a joint to allow normal movement. Holly's leg/leg's have essentially dislocated each time she shows symptoms and this will only increase.

    My personal opinion from what you have written is to dump your original vet.

    Please don't allow him to operate on Holly.

    If you are stuck re surgey for Holly, please PM me and perhaps i can liase with rescue groups to recomened an experienced ortho surgeon for you in your area...

    Wishing you and Holly well, i am sorry for your distress.

    B

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    SM, I agree with Billy.
    Wish you both the best and successfull recovery.

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    Thanks for replying.

    We are not letting our original vet near her...

    She's been okay - hard to keep a little excitable girl quiet though.

    I am having problems finding a vet though. The more I've enquired the more confusing it has become and now we've found a vet that has said that usually when the patella luxates, the cruciate ligament goes as well and advised us we would need $1500 for each leg for the patella and an additional $1200 for the ligament if they find they have gone as well. Her problems appear to be growing.

    Thanks for the offer Billy, I am going to pm you. I feel I need a vet that someone can 'highly' recommend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowmum View Post
    Thanks for replying.

    We are not letting our original vet near her...

    She's been okay - hard to keep a little excitable girl quiet though.

    I am having problems finding a vet though. The more I've enquired the more confusing it has become and now we've found a vet that has said that usually when the patella luxates, the cruciate ligament goes as well and advised us we would need $1500 for each leg for the patella and an additional $1200 for the ligament if they find they have gone as well. Her problems appear to be growing.

    Thanks for the offer Billy, I am going to pm you. I feel I need a vet that someone can 'highly' recommend.
    You need an experienced surgeon SM.

    I would be wary of cruciate ligament surgery at this point

    One step at a time.

    Will check it out for you

    B

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