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    Sorry if this is a bit long winded but I'm really confused with what is happening to Mya and Jenna. I find it odd and potentially very significant that it is affecting both of them.

    They both are getting recurring bouts of the runs. I have started to keep a food diary as it appears to be after they have any raw meat.

    Here is the info from the diary - hope it makes sense:

    25/3 ckn wings for brekkie, Eukanuba for tea, a few GSD's treats

    26/3 Mya sick in morning, very soft poos x2. No brekkie, Euk for tea

    27/3 poos ok today. Sardines for brekkie, Euk for tea

    28/3 Ckn necks + wing tips - Mya
    Ckn wings - Jenna, Both Euk for tea, A few GSD treats

    29/3 Mya runny poo's througout the night, sick once in morning, Jenna runny poos in morning. No brekkie, cooked ckn and rice for both of them for tea.

    30/3 ckn/rice for brekkie & Euk for tea - poos fine again

    31/3 Sardines brekkie, Euk tea - poos all fine

    1/4 Lamb off cuts (fat trimmed off) brekkie, Euk tea. Up 3 times in night for Mya - runny poos again. Jenna up early for large runny poo

    No food so far today.

    I should add that throughout all this, the dogs are absolutely fine themselves. Playing, still wanting to eat etc. They have both previously eaten raw meat with no problems at all.

    Am I reintroducing the raw too soon, do you think?

    What probiotics do people use? I want to get some tomorrow when the shops are open again and try that. I don't really want to use yoghurt at the moment, in case the dairy upsets their stomachs more.

    Any other ideas?
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    I have just been reading up on this exact thing and have some great info in which I will share.

    These people have had trouble with the raw meats, not sure if this is exactly correct though.
    "I have an American Bulldog and was told the same thing. You never give a dog raw meat. When we got our dog, he was fed with raw meat and we were told and did so. Couple days later, he vomited and had diarrhea. It ended up he had worms. When you feed a dog anything raw they get worms, especially when they are a puppy. You never feed a dog raw meat. They are just like humans and cannot digest it!"

    I also found out that changing a dogs diet gives them the runs, so perhaps this is the key?


    You could try using PetAlive RuniPoo Relief. I just found this when searching but do not know if used in Aus? The link I have provided below also shows reasons for dogs getting the runs.

    Dog Diarrhea Relief

    Please take a look, the symptoms etc are about halfway down.

    I hope I have been of some help.

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    Absolute rubbish that dogs get worms from raw meat that is human grade, purchased from a butcher or supermarket...you would have them too.
    Very much though if, like mine, they drag back road kill, bits of dead calves and roos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Di_dee1 View Post
    Absolute rubbish that dogs get worms from raw meat that is human grade, purchased from a butcher or supermarket...you would have them too.
    Very much though if, like mine, they drag back road kill, bits of dead calves and roos.

    I thought so too thats why I did a lot of reading about it and thought I would share the quote.

    I give my dogs chicken necks and they've never had worms, so I see no problem with it. But, we do feed our dogs Pedigree for tea and Max and Teddy get the runs from it.

    Thanks..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belle View Post
    I thought so too thats why I did a lot of reading about it and thought I would share the quote.

    I give my dogs chicken necks and they've never had worms, so I see no problem with it. But, we do feed our dogs Pedigree for tea and Max and Teddy get the runs from it.

    Thanks..
    A lot of off the shelf dog food will give dogs the runs.
    We have found since Ralph can't have dry food he was having soft poo!
    So I have added "4 legs" pasta and rice based prepared dog food and this has reduced the soft poo!

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    I think it is all trial and error what our dogs do best on. I am trialing new dry food at the moment, mixing it with the stuff they know, then seeing if they will eat it alone. Seeing any results (I will not walk out into the middle of the paddock though to do so) Maybe my dogs just have cast iron stomachs as they get fed anything and everything suitable to them, leftovers (watching onion) Table scraps, sardines eggs gawd the list goes on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    The chicken necks seem to set off the diarrhoea and also other sorts of bones maybe
    That's what it looks like doesn't it but I just thought it was a bit strange given they could both eat these things a few weeks ago, no problem, and now they both are getting upset tummies from it. Very frustrating, Mya is not a good eater at the best of times but she does love the raw stuff, if she can't have that I think I am going to really struggle to find something else she will eat. She just about manages to eat the Eukanuba at night but will not touch it in a morning.

    I think I am going to hold off on the raw for about 5 days then reintroduce to just one dog at a time and see what happens. I guess I'll be cooking lots of chicken/rice. PITA that is and is bloody expensive
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    Yea, TK, the best bet is getting onto a blandish or dry diet you know does not cause it and then adding foods one by one over time.
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    I use PAW Pro-biotic powder for the rescues and their upset tumbies! Also used to give it to Oopa for her IBS

    Only available at the vet or on line from the vet onliners

    ETA I agree with Clea, bring back their diet to basics. Poach a whole chicken, remove all the bones (or put them through a meat grinder and cook up some BROWN rice. Add grated sweet potato and zuchinni over the following week.

    BTW, HY posted a website last night referring to unbiased list of what is and isn't a good dog food. I noted in this list that all the Aussie top 10 foods were only rated a 1 (out of a potenial of 5)due to corn and brewers rice additives!!
    Last edited by Shar Pei Rescue Victoria; 04-02-2010 at 05:36 PM.
    SPR fosters:Rowland, Matrix, Mia, Arizona, Romeo, Wrinkles, George, Molly, Su Lin, Ellie, Charlie, Charlotte, Lulu, Montana http://www.sharpeirescue.com.au

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    The rule of thumb is...a healthy dog will not starve itself...it is not in their DNA.
    Unless they're a Saluki in which case they're quite happy to...

    Little b**stards!

    But seriously, some dogs can and will. Like human children. The old axiom "they'll eat when they're hungry enough" does indeed fall down sometimes.

    ETA - you can use Yakult or similar for probiotic - lactose free of course.

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